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New Panda City Cross 4x2.

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Re: New Panda City Cross 4x2.

Also in the same article the new Panda 4x4.

I really like the new wheels on this.
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Re: New Panda City Cross 4x2.

A Cross 4x2? Pointless - and it destroys the USP of the Cross brand.

Frankly, the Fiat product design team need a kick up their lazy arses.
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Re: New Panda City Cross 4x2.

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A Cross 4x2? Pointless - and it destroys the USP of the Cross brand.

Frankly, the Fiat product design team need a kick up their lazy arses.

They weren't charging enough for the Trekking I guess. More profit here. Plus it comes with the 1.2 lump. Ace.


Have to recoup all those millions invested in the facelift, which seems to consist of some new wheels. And another colour.


For 12000 Euros and I quote: "A car can attract a younger audience, thanks to the perfect combination of urban style and distinctive look at an affordable price".
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They weren't charging enough for the Trekking I guess. More profit here. Plus it comes with the 1.2 lump. Ace.


Have to recoup all those millions invested in the facelift, which seems to consist of some new wheels. And another colour.


For 12000 Euros and I quote: "A car can attract a younger audience, thanks to the perfect combination of urban style and distinctive look at an affordable price".
I was sad to see the Trekking discontinued, and posted on this board that it seemed strange Fiat was leaving this segment just when other manufacturers are getting in to the faux-4x4 (off road look but no off road ability) e.g. Renault Captur, Dacia Sandero Stepway, new Ford Fiesta 'Active' model. These are doing well - the Stepway outsells the standard Sandero, the Captur sells loads.

I felt that the Trekking 'looked' expensive as it wasn't available with the 1.2 The City Cross 4x2 could do well, although I don't like the skid plates being in the body colour.
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The City Cross 4x2 could do well, although I don't like the skid plates being in the body colour.
Skid plates being, of course, exactly what you need in the urban environment that this car is apparently aimed at!
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I was sad to see the Trekking discontinued, and posted on this board that it seemed strange Fiat was leaving this segment just when other manufacturers are getting in to the faux-4x4 (off road look but no off road ability) e.g. Renault Captur, Dacia Sandero Stepway, new Ford Fiesta 'Active' model. These are doing well - the Stepway outsells the standard Sandero, the Captur sells loads.

I felt that the Trekking 'looked' expensive as it wasn't available with the 1.2 The City Cross 4x2 could do well, although I don't like the skid plates being in the body colour.

In looks I think I prefer the coloured bits. Be cracking in yellow (which they won't do).


Why not raid the parts bin and trouser a few more Euro profit?
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Re: New Panda City Cross 4x2.

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I was sad to see the Trekking discontinued, and posted on this board that it seemed strange Fiat was leaving this segment just when other manufacturers are getting in to the faux-4x4 (off road look but no off road ability) e.g. Renault Captur, Dacia Sandero Stepway, new Ford Fiesta 'Active' model. These are doing well - the Stepway outsells the standard Sandero, the Captur sells loads.

I felt that the Trekking 'looked' expensive as it wasn't available with the 1.2 The City Cross 4x2 could do well, although I don't like the skid plates being in the body colour.
I think they look 10x better.
I don't like them silver on the 4x4 Cross.
When i would have bought a 4x4 Cross, i would have paint them body colour.
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Re: New Panda City Cross 4x2.

That's a bit tragic. Still a nice-looking car but not the real thing. Body colour 'bash plate' looks better at the back. I suppose these are no longer really protection at all, so it kind of makes sense. Presumably the under-body protection has gone too, and we've lost the tow hooks I really don't like the look of the 4x4 but that's where my money would go next.
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Re: New Panda City Cross 4x2.

A lot of people really like the look of the Cross, but it's way to expensive.
Most people will not even leave the tarmac with there Cross, so a city Cross 4x2 make sense.
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Re: New Panda City Cross 4x2.

Gareth is right (it's pointless). If it was 7500 on the road in 1.2 form, could be useful in light snow and low level flooding. Won't be of course. Fiat's loss as always.
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Gareth is right (it's pointless). If it was 7500 on the road in 1.2 form, could be useful in light snow and low level flooding. Won't be of course. Fiat's loss as always.
The skid pans are pointless ... but it's a style, and a popular one. It's cheap enough to do, because they don't even have to be tough, just cosmetic. Other bits are useful - raised ride height for visibility, easier entry, and better ride comfort. And plastic cladding is useful protection in car parks.

I agree with you on pricing: Fiat is going at this from the wrong end. The Cross TA lists at 16250. The saving of a 1.2 over a TA is 1200. The 4x4 was 1100 over the cost of the Trekking and for that you also got a 6-speed box. There'd be a greater saving without the Cross Hill descent, and no Trekking Traction control.

At those pricing levels that would put it at what roughly 13500 list, a couple of thousand less with a decent discount. I can't see it being a big seller at that sort of level. But had they started with an Easy and added stuff it may have been different.
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Re: New Panda City Cross 4x2.

It's growing on me - I have no need of 4WD but it does look rather fetching in yellow.


I wouldn't be forking 12k on it though.
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Re: New Panda City Cross 4x2.

Looks much better without that silver plate up front.
It's more in harmony with the rest of the car.
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