General What did you do with your Panda today?

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General What did you do with your Panda today?

afraid not this will be my 19th fiat since 1964 ie 5 126 3 fio/van 1 uno 1 mark 1 panda 1 ducato 1quobo 1 900 amigo camper van 3 127 and 2 panda 2012+ :bang:
900 Amigo - We had one of those when I was a kid! Bloody loved that thing - I remember we took it on family holidays to Wales, the Isle of Wight, Norfolk etc When I've seen them years later I wonder how we all fitted in it - It must've been like a TARDIS!
 
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Decided to dump the Technolube oil after 5 months, now have Castrol Edge 5w-40 C3 spec and new filter, at least it's spotless inside now. The Technolube of the same spec seems very runny in comparison to the Castrol, I had about two litres left and did a simple check with a small funnel, the Castrol oil took 12 seconds to clear and the Technolube 7 seconds both same specs and both been sitting beside each other for over a week.
 
Had an email from the dealer that inspected the rust on wifey's car today, as below.

Our Bodyshop have made their assessment of the issue with your cars paintwork.

To be covered by the anti-perforation warranty the defect has to present as a hole coming from the inside of the
affected panel out.

This is not the situation so we are unable to assist under warranty, sorry.

No accident damage, given where it is practically impossible, original paintwork.
So it's not a hole but it is rust bubbling the paintwork, I'm not sure I can be bothered going round the houses with Fiat UK about this, I'll probably get it repaired by a bodyshop and vow never to give Fiat any of our money ever again.
I've just got shot of my Ten Year old Subaru Legacy, now there is a car that led a hard and uncaring life on Forest tracks and though that had led to some serious repair bills the bodywork was absolutely perfect.
 
Had an email from the dealer that inspected the rust on wifey's car today, as below.

Our Bodyshop have made their assessment of the issue with your cars paintwork.

To be covered by the anti-perforation warranty the defect has to present as a hole coming from the inside of the
affected panel out.

This is not the situation so we are unable to assist under warranty, sorry.

No accident damage, given where it is practically impossible, original paintwork.
So it's not a hole but it is rust bubbling the paintwork, I'm not sure I can be bothered going round the houses with Fiat UK about this, I'll probably get it repaired by a bodyshop and vow never to give Fiat any of our money ever again.
I've just got shot of my Ten Year old Subaru Legacy, now there is a car that led a hard and uncaring life on Forest tracks and though that had led to some serious repair bills the bodywork was absolutely perfect.



This is another thing on my list of 'don't buy the current Panda model list' - made up of things owners on here and in person I know telling me to avoid it. And yet, it's the only ideal step up from my '05 shape one.

Very disappointed in the warranty stance, but I'd imagine ALL car makers warranty has these BS clauses to get them out of paying.

I'd say they don't have anyone there whose qualified to really get stuck into an issue too.. though I can't see why they couldn't just replace the door that's rusted. :-/
 
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Well I would have had the door cards off myself to see if any rust was seen inside the door, if so Fiat HAS to repair this as it's perforation. Rust from the outside could be and I repeat could be from damage done prior to delivery or by undisclosed damage by a previous owner, if that is the case then it's not Fiat to blame.

When I was looking at the beginning of the year for a car I very carefully looked at many 2012+ Pandas and can quite honestly say with confidence rust was not an issue, in this part of the world due to weather and salted roads rust can be an issue, I've seen earlier Pandas with some rust in the seams and some truly awful rear beams. In comparison to a neighbours 2011 Golf which has badly rusted sills and door bottoms. So for my money I'd put abet on that the current Panda is more rust resistant than other cars our there, if you feel the rust "is" Fiats problem get an independent report or do as I said and complain bitterly, take photos of inside the door if there is rust to be seen and use them as your lever for a result.
 
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Well I would have had the door cards off myself to see if any rust was seen inside the door, if so Fiat HAS to repair this as it's perforation. Rust from the outside could be and I repeat could be from damage done prior to delivery or by undisclosed damage by a previous owner, if that is the case then it's not Fiat to blame.

When I was looking at the beginning of the year for a car I very carefully looked at many 2012+ Pandas and can quite honestly say with confidence rust was not an issue, in this part of the world due to weather and salted roads rust can be an issue, I've seen earlier Pandas with some rust in the seams and some truly awful rear beams. In comparison to a neighbours 2011 Golf which has badly rusted sills and door bottoms. So for my money I'd put abet on that the current Panda is more rust resistant than other cars our there, if you feel the rust "is" Fiats problem get an independent report or do as I said and complain bitterly, take photos of inside the door if there is rust to be seen and use them as your lever for a result.

Thanks Murphy, the rust is on the leading edge of the drivers door, where the door skin wraps around the frame and runs for a width of about 10-12mm and around 180mm in length so it's right on the edge nowhere near the door cards.
I will complain, there is no sign of previous damage as the guy that looked at it confirmed.
 
Passed 20000 joyful miles still a pleasure to drive and economony on computer showing 54.3 on the last 14000 miles and mostly short journeys under 5 miles with maybe a 2 weekly 50 mile plus trip with an italian tune up now and then
 
Shopping and emergency rescue mission for VW parts. The brake back plates are so rusty you can see through them... Bolts so rusty he heads have gone altogether. Germans certainly know how to make a car, but not so much how to make them rust proof! Panda to the parts shop then.
 
Washed and waxed the car. Sadly there are lots of spots from treesap on the hood so next week I'll be getting a clay kit and give that a go. Never used clay so wonder how it will go.
 

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Shopping and emergency rescue mission for VW parts. The brake back plates are so rusty you can see through them... Bolts so rusty he heads have gone altogether. Germans certainly know how to make a car, but not so much how to make them rust proof! Panda to the parts shop then.



German Engineering: taking your Audi to the dealer to have a dealer level scan tool replace a light bulb that broke.

Italian Engineering: simple, proven, low cost , easy to maintain parts that have been on cars for years.


I know which basket my eggs are in.
 
German Engineering: taking your Audi to the dealer to have a dealer level scan tool replace a light bulb that broke.

Italian Engineering: simple, proven, low cost , easy to maintain parts that have been on cars for years.


I know which basket my eggs are in.
These days it's not so simple. A lot of European cars ( including Audi) use Magnetti Marelli lighting - so even if they replace the part with a sense of German theatre it may be an Italian component!
 
Left it a bit late leaving Cambridge to drive to Norwich in time for the 7.45 kick-off at Carrow Road, so this evening's dash along the A14/A11 with my football-mad daughter was brisker an usual. Along the way, we experienced three egregious examples of the "I'm Not Going to Be Overtaken By A Stupid-Looking Yellow Panda" mentality (once by a white van, once by a Vectra, and once by an A3). What is it with some people? Fuel consumption for the 65-mile trip was a lousy 32mpg. A new low. As for the football, don't ask!!!
 
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