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Old 13-12-2002   #16
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Oh my gawd. Please don't scare me like that!
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Sorry! I'm sure it will be fine mate. Fingers crossed for ya! ;)

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Steve.
Obtain a substantial piece of wood, perhaps a piece of fence post, (long enough to go across the engine bay and out over the wings)and a lenght of that thick blue synthetic rope.

On the last stud of the inlet manifold (no 4) there should be a metal bracket lifting eye. Use this to support the weight of the engine but rig it so that you can lower the rear of the engine as you go, to assist with the removal of the box.

Swaping the gearbox is no problem, just undo the mountings/linkages and slide it off, remember that the input shaft will stay engaged in the splines until the last moment so be ready for the weight.
Strongly recomend you press-gang someone to assist you at the actual removal and refitting stages.

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Old 16-12-2002   #18
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Thanks Pete! I'll try that as I have the ideal item - a fence post!

Just got back from Grimsby (no fish this time - my freezer's full) and found that the Panda had moved and it was resting against the lockable post. Oops - handbrake not on properly and one of my neighbours saw a few kids around it on Saturday night ;)

Must get it going soon - it's beginning to look abandoned!

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No time like the present Steve!:D

You can give yourself a smashing Crimbo pressie - a 'new' panda c/w 5 speed box!:p

The box sounds good, and the fence post a good idea.

Pete's spot on about press ganging a helping hand.

We don't want either you or the Panda damaged! [xx(]

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Thanks John.

Not sure about press-ganging someone, but a friend of mine has agreed to assist as long as I install his house alarm for him.

Hmmmmm. I've just seen the size of his house .... [:0]

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Okay, to keep this thread active - it's Easter this weekend, it's going to be lovely weather, so I really don't have any excuse, do I?

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I'd start tomorrow, or Saturday latest:
the weather may not hold into Sunday ;)

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Thanks John - I did make a start. Everything has now been disconnected prior to supporting the engine and actually dropping the gearbox.

A bit silly and premature, but I did fit the 5-speed gear lever into the car to give me a little bit of encouragement and a taste of things to come. I've cleaned all the gunge off the lever and gaiter and after a polish :) it looks rather nice :p

BTW, the car is standing on gravel so it's extremely uncomfortable to say the least ...

Jobs to come:

Press-ganging an assistant (one who is sympathetic to fixing old bangers so that rules out my father in law)

Dropping the gearbox

Fitting the new clutch

Taking off the bits that the scrappie left on the replacement gearbox

Fitting the replacement gearbox

Looking for the bits and pieces I removed earlier

Putting it all back together again

Praying as I start the engine and lift the clutch pedal ...

er,

that's it

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Still got the finishing touches to apply then :p

FWIW I find _really_ big carboard boxes ( ex supermarket) flattened, make a reasonable surface to lie on. They keep spilt oil off the ground, and throw away easily afterwards.

Old carpet is nicer, though :D
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I did have a proper creeper but somebody nicked it out of my garage a couple of years ago ;) and you were right about the weather!! It's bloody cold here in Nottingham ...

And an assistant: a while ago one or two of my neighbours did say "give us a shout when you're ready" but seem to be "busy" at the moment. Typical.

Needless to say nothing got done today. Next chance will be Monday as we're having a family get-together tomorrow (Sunday). Now there's a thought. Penny's uncle is sympathetic to old bangers, isn't he? And I just happen to have a spare set of overalls ...

Somehow I will not be popular with Penny's mum and dad if I was to do that ;)

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Go Steve Go!
You'll get it done eventually ;)

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How did it go. Steve?

Oh, one BTW, if it's not done yet..

You might find it's worth using the "tripod joints" off the driveshafts which came with the "newer" gearbox ( ISTR they were chopped by the scrapper), on your existing driveshafts. ( a circlip is all that holds them on ).
These joints have the same wear and use as the gearbox: they belong together :)
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Thanks John.

You were right - the driveshafts were chopped in half. So I have the tripod joints and what looks like a nearly new pair of gaiters :)

A neighbour is lending me a hoist to support the engine and will be helping me on Thursday to do the business. Woo Hoo!!! :):)

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Careful with the gaiters:
there are several different ones, which aren't _all
_ compatible [V]

But use the "newer" ones if they're in better nick.

ISTR you'll need some fairly hefty "tie-wraps" to seal/secure then, if you change them.. 2 per side.

Best of luck with it.

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Thanks John.

The tie-wraps I have already. They're white unfortunately but who cares? They're nearly 18 inches long and 1/4 inch wide so should be ideal for the job.

The gaiters _look_ identical to the ones on mine, but the near-side one on mine was replaced about 3 years ago so that will be in better nick than either of them!!


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