General Brian the BFP (Big Friendly Panda)- 1988 Sisley 4X4
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General Brian the BFP (Big Friendly Panda)- 1988 Sisley 4X4
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I moved the axle only 10mm to the back, the same cause, but smaller wheels. 185-14 aggresve wheels will destroy the gearbox{ few even small offroad jumps with wheels not touching the ground for just a sec. and while landing/touchng the ground again with gas pedal still engaged the tensions between wheels movng free and those with grip will kill/mill something ,the same story while crawlng on 1st with gas pedal on in deep mud, with some object in the mud that suddenly gives a grip/traction to one of the wheels, there is no central diferential mechanism between axles in panda 
} . From my/my friends experience any wheel bigger than 60cm {in diameter} will soon cause the gearbox cover or flange to explode or the propshaft to twist be prepared=start gathering spare parts
ps: all those mishaps with bigger wheels combined with 1.2 8v punto engine.
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} . From my/my friends experience any wheel bigger than 60cm {in diameter} will soon cause the gearbox cover or flange to explode or the propshaft to twist be prepared=start gathering spare parts ps: all those mishaps with bigger wheels combined with 1.2 8v punto engine.
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I moved the axle only 10mm to the back, the same cause, but smaller wheels. 185-14 aggresve wheels will destroy the gearbox{ few even small offroad jumps with wheels not touching the ground for just a sec. and while landing/touchng the ground again with gas pedal still engaged the tensions between wheels movng free and those with grip will kill/mill something ,the same story while crawlng on 1st with gas pedal on in deep mud, with some object in the mud that suddenly gives a grip/traction to one of the wheels, there is no central diferential mechanism between axles in panda
ps: all those mishaps with bigger wheels combined with 1.2 8v punto engine.
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Well if a viscous coupling inserted in the drive train will deminish shock loading on the rear axel as there is no central differential we think
There are many 4x4 rally pandas out there ,where a viscous coupling must be employed. ???
I'm aware of one rally 4x4 (R.Thiel) and Si is 4x4ing his turbo Marbella.
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This was our thought about the increase in torque of 35% at the wheel
Circumference design of the original system would probably allowed for 150% in design calcs. An un damaged prop no scoring from rocks or dents therefore should not fail ,the loading on the box are more critical
Pandik fitted over size wheels probably larger and wider than 185 r14
Discuss !!!
Any way. Who cares
Who dares wins !!!
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All valid points! And worth exploring. A family member of ours also runs his Styer Puch Haflinger on the same tyres, he seems to think we should be okay.
Plus we have plenty of spares [emoji23]
Plus we have plenty of spares [emoji23]
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Handbrake set up has been progressed.
It's looking rather steam punk!
It's looking rather steam punk!
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Seat mounts sorted [emoji1360]
When's it getting sprayed, come on I want to see that amazing green!
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Never mind the bloody paint, I just want to buy it when its done.
I keep getting too enthusiastic looking at the pictures, if you know what I mean
Dave
I keep getting too enthusiastic looking at the pictures, if you know what I mean
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Well this could be a prototype for something bigger and better.
A whole lot of knowledge under our belts now. Don't know wheather to do a secrecy clause
Just with close ups not giving much away !!!! Mmmm let's see
What next winch yes
Tail gate any guesses what's happening there. Freddy knows !
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Patience is a virtue [emoji6]
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Good work! Keep innovating
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