Register Login
Lamps by Post - For all your lighting needs
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 2 Weeks Ago   #136
The rare car hunter
 
onemanmade's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Ayrshire
Posts: 2,927
Thanks: 168
Trader Rating: 0
onemanmade has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Work Begins... Finally. 94 Panda CLX

My original plan for the sisley was to have a spare wheel mounted on the boot somehow (presumably with some kind of frame) but i abandoned the idea
Likes FDNY21 liked this post
onemanmade is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 2 Weeks Ago   #137
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Manchester
Posts: 258
Thanks: 57
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Work Begins... Finally. 94 Panda CLX

Quote Originally Posted by onemanmade View Post
My original plan for the sisley was to have a spare wheel mounted on the boot somehow (presumably with some kind of frame) but i abandoned the idea
My old landrover originally had the spare on the back door but once the corrosion got in it basically started peeling the door skin off! So generally it was in the middle of the floor in the back, getting airborne whenever I went over a bump! Spare on the boot would be very heavy on both the hinges and the damper rod thing. From what I've seen Panda wise they normally hinge out of the way to one side? No matter for me, I think eventually I plan to have a couple of spares on the roof on long adventures.
Thanks onemanmade thanked for this post
Likes FDNY21, onemanmade liked this post
__________________
We have nothing to fear but fear itself... and rust, rust can be problematic.

http://www.fiatforum.com/panda-class...panda-clx.html
(so it's 93 but I don't think I can change the thread title!)
Phiz is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 1 Week Ago   #138
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Manchester
Posts: 258
Thanks: 57
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Work Begins... Finally. 94 Panda CLX

So as some of you may have seen I got the rack on and even the Kayaks on the roof!! Getting a little frantic in terms of sorting the car out so not many photos but here is a bit of an update on progress.

Click image for larger version

Name:	O5- Kayaks on Roof.jpg
Views:	5
Size:	295.5 KB
ID:	181583
Click image for larger version

Name:	O6- small roof rack.jpg
Views:	4
Size:	720.6 KB
ID:	181584

So the above pictures really do not show a lot. In order to fit the rack I have as a temporary solution, after cutting off the old legs I decided the best way to make new legs for the mounting points I made would be to make feet and uprights which sit on each mounting point vertically, as the rack is slightly narrower, so I could then weld the rack to the sides of those lengths of 20x20x2.5mm box section. I decided this was my best option as I am rapidly running out of time in terms of getting the car ready for the Scotland trip and also as the rack had quite a bit of paint and rust on it so I wanted as many weld points from old to new as possible, so the uprights would weld on to the top and bottom rails of the roof rack!

I got the rack on the roof of the car supported by pieces of 2" thick timber to give me the clearance I wanted over the roof and then bolted the uprights to the car and clamped the two together to tack up to make sure it all fitted. The roof rack is not entirely square, in fact as I discovered at this stage not even close to square... so one of my vertical uprights had to have quite a bit of alteration, I welded them on to the plates at about 80 degrees to allow for the slope of the roof, on one corner I ended up putting it on backwards, cutting the box section and then spinning that around so the mounting went outwards and cleared the rack!

Click image for larger version

Name:	O7- Uprights welded on.jpg
Views:	4
Size:	744.7 KB
ID:	181585
Click image for larger version

Name:	O7- Wonky upright.jpg
Views:	4
Size:	786.1 KB
ID:	181586

So once properly welded up and the top of all the upright bits of tube capped that was the rack on the car. Next thing was the Kayaks. I normally have the two boats face down side by side but the rack was never going to be wide enough for that (as the car isn't) so the best option was to have them on their side with poles in between. The poles and mounting plates were in a previous post but here is the solution in practice.
Click image for larger version

Name:	O8- Kayak fittings on rack.jpg
Views:	4
Size:	673.6 KB
ID:	181587
Click image for larger version

Name:	O9- Kayak lashing points.jpg
Views:	4
Size:	803.3 KB
ID:	181588

Nothing pretty but does the job which is what I need right now. After these photo's were taken I took the rack back off the car and the kayak fittings off the rack and got a coat of primer on all the new bits and then black hammerite over the new bits and any areas that looked particularly rusty. This was all earlier in the week and generally with Martins help (a lot of lifting the roof rack on and off the car generally!).

Today I fitted the rack back on the car ready for the trip and then go on with my next job. Given the blistering heat we have had this weekend I did notice a great advantage of the chequer plate roof rack. On Saturday we drove about 100 miles to Lancaster and back and the inside of the black roof with no headlining was too hot to hold your hand against! On Sunday the car was parked out in the sun again all day and it was only mildly warm due to the shade of the roof rack.

In order to fit the roof rack I had to take out the headlining. Though it was a very simple task I decided I would not refit it until I had recovered it as the cardboard it was on could get damaged if repeatedly taken out. I found a shop online to buy the new fabric from, it is relatively inexpensive and easy to use as it is 'scrim backed' so the glue does not run through and has a decent amount of stretch to it. The online shop I bought it from said 7-14 days delivery so if we had the headlining in in time for the trip really depended on that... it arrived in 2 days!

The old headlining did look really bad, the photo below gives an idea but in the flesh it looked worse. There was brown staining which i guess was from condensation (in a ring on the front and back panel) made up of lots of spots and there were quite a few divots and tears which my mate put down to stilettos and naughty behavior but I suspect was more likely to be the car being used to carry garden waste!

Click image for larger version

Name:	P2- Old headlining.jpg
Views:	6
Size:	24.3 KB
ID:	181589

I'd watched a few youtube videos on it and it really is a very easy process, especially in the Panda as all the fittings are around the roof lining and mounted on to the body so the shape could not be simpler. A cheap, easy and satisfying job I would strongly recommend, now it's done the interior seems so much fresher.
I decided not to pull the old fabric off, it seemed quite thin and not spongy like the new stuff and was very well stuck down. I figured removing it might cause damage so left it. I put the whole thing on a large enough table, laid the fabric over the top of it and cut it down so it overhung all sides by a few inches. We then folded it in half and used a load of spray adhesive on both the board and the new fabric to join it. Once it was well stuck down (we left it for a while and tried to get our head around the next task) we flipped it over and trimmed it down. At the front and back there are tabs which slot in to the bodywork so we trimmed around those but otherwise we folded the fabric over so there would be no visible edges.

Click image for larger version

Name:	P3- New headlining.jpg
Views:	6
Size:	21.6 KB
ID:	181590
Click image for larger version

Name:	P4- New headlining back.jpg
Views:	5
Size:	34.7 KB
ID:	181591

Also as you can see in the second photo I stuck a load of self adhesive velcro down in the middle of the larger back section. Got the idea off here somewhere (Panda classic section) to deal with a slight sagging in the headlining. marked a position about 8 1/2" back from the centre mounting hole and dead centre left to right so that it would line up with the other half stuck to the roof of the car. Worked a treat and cost maybe 3 from wilko's for the 1m length I used.

Next challenge is fitting the speakers which is still not finished!
Click image for larger version

Name:	P1- Speaker in MDF.jpg
Views:	4
Size:	715.6 KB
ID:	181592

The plan is to mount the speakers up in the top rear corners of the car, basically where the tailgate mounts are. This is the only spot I can find where they would not get in the way in terms of folding the rear seats forward or loosing storage space (door pockets/dash). I was initially aiming to mount them without drilling any holes in the car, my idea being I could clamp one end to the existing openings in the top corners (above the one the cables run to the tailgate from) and then use high adhesive sign tape on all the edges to stick the rest on... in conclusion the tape is not strong enough, certainly in terms of sticking to MDF. So I've so far made one speaker case and covered it in left over headlining material, I'm still planning on clamping one end of each case to the opening in the top corner but think I'll have to screw the other end to the car. Using the tape to make it more stable and prevent it vibrating or rattling. I'm less phased about drilling the holes now as having had the box up in position I'm happy that it does not severely impact rear visability and it does not interfere with the cables for the tailgate or the rear window latch. I think once it's in it will look good but more importantly be out of the way and not affect the practicailty of the car... should sound pretty sweet too.

Bit of a long late ramble after a long hot day so apologies if I've repeated bits or generally not made sense. Any questions please ask.
Thanks onemanmade thanked for this post
Likes FDNY21, onemanmade liked this post
__________________
We have nothing to fear but fear itself... and rust, rust can be problematic.

http://www.fiatforum.com/panda-class...panda-clx.html
(so it's 93 but I don't think I can change the thread title!)
Phiz is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 1 Week Ago   #139
The rare car hunter
 
onemanmade's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Ayrshire
Posts: 2,927
Thanks: 168
Trader Rating: 0
onemanmade has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Work Begins... Finally. 94 Panda CLX

Looks very fresh man i like it
Likes Phiz liked this post
onemanmade is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 1 Week Ago   #140
2 Pandas-drives a Stilo:(
 
firstcar-Y10's Avatar
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Epworth
Posts: 3,790
Thanks: 222
Trader Rating: 1
firstcar-Y10 has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Work Begins... Finally. 94 Panda CLX

If you're just mounting one pair of big speakers at the back it's worth mounting a pair of tweeters either end of the dash roll just to stop it sounding like it's all behind you. Takes up very little space but does make a surprising difference to the sound - did it with my very first Panda as the speakers were mounted in the side panels by the back seat. Bass frequencies are not very directional (why you can mount a sub wherever) but the high frequencies you can pick out clearly where they are coming from.

This sort of thing:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/33609-Oval...3D352088195906
Thanks Phiz thanked for this post
__________________
THE MIGHTY GRUMBLEWEED

Last edited by firstcar-Y10; 1 Week Ago at 17:55.
firstcar-Y10 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 6 Days Ago   #141
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Manchester
Posts: 258
Thanks: 57
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Work Begins... Finally. 94 Panda CLX

Mmm not a bad call at all, I can see how they would fit quite neatly, though at the minute now I have an operational stereo it's pretty well bottom of the list. Sound quality seems good, though does make quite a difference having the windows open too given how far away the speakers are... and god help any rear seat passengers if I decide I want some tunes on .

I'll add it on the list and one day get on to it, though by then it'll be a pretty mean looking Panda! Talking of which took it out this evening with the kayaks on the roof, figured I'd better make sure they are secure before setting off to Scotland! Got several waves, my photo taken and offered drugs, all in about 25 minutes. Feeling a little inconspicuous!
Thanks onemanmade thanked for this post
Likes FDNY21, onemanmade liked this post
__________________
We have nothing to fear but fear itself... and rust, rust can be problematic.

http://www.fiatforum.com/panda-class...panda-clx.html
(so it's 93 but I don't think I can change the thread title!)
Phiz is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Reply
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump
Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
(G) 02 Schumacher: The work begins... krs111 Cinquecento / Seicento 8 19-09-2011 18:49
(G) Wooo finally on my 2 weeks break from work, work on the car starts now!! corky Punto (Mk2/2b) 3 19-10-2010 11:08
(G) Bought one! Now the work begins.... circolo Bravo / Brava 16 19-07-2007 10:35
(G) Work begins!! YAY! pandamonius_maximus Panda (Classic) 13 24-11-2006 16:09