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You don't think the correction of your man's misinformation was helpful?
Helpful, in the context of (the tattered remains of) this thread would be:

since a Panda windscreen has no curves or hardware to add, can a supplier just cut one to order from a flat sheet from stock?

Which I notice still hasn't really been answered. Anything you want to add about what type of glass would be easier/ more appropriate/ impossible to use also welcome.
 
Anything you want to add about what type of glass would be easier/ more appropriate/ impossible to use also welcome.

Except me objecting to the closed group attitude?

You can't deny the immediately spikey response from your man. It would have been far more welcoming and would have been much easier not to be so stand-offish at that moment.

F*ck me, it was like the Slaughtered Lamb scene in American Werewolf in London.

I have no axe to grind, points to score or point to prove. I did not appreciate the tone of Portland Bill's comment and as such I responded so. Why several of you have decided to steam in is quite funny and typical of closed groups.
 
Except me objecting to the closed group attitude?
No, object away if you must, but you still haven't actually answered the question. As far as I can tell you have so far suggested that you can't cut toughened glass at all as it has to be cut to shape before it is tempered. Fair enough so that's a non starter. Laminated glass you suggest has to be shaped after it is cut for a specific application. The question is, given that a Panda windscreen is flat so no shaping is involved, is getting one cut to order any more of a realistic option than one with complex curves involved?
Also that you consider an axe an inappropriate tool for glass work and therefore don't keep one in your toolbox. Fair enough, also valuable info;)
 
hate to be the teacher in the class room here, but cant we just leave it at that please?

from what i see, everything that has needed to be discussed has been discussed.

At last, some lateral thinking.

Moving on, I'm not sure why anyone would want to cut a Panda screen from a sheet of flam; I can't see the point. Any forward facing glass must comply to a standard and thus must show the relevant marking. It seems a lot of faffing about when a new screen, ready to fit is fairly inexpensive. At a guess, I would say the average cost of such a screen fitted would be <150-quid, or even two figures if you know how to fit one.
 
At last, some lateral thinking.

Moving on, I'm not sure why anyone would want to cut a Panda screen from a sheet of flam; I can't see the point. Any forward facing glass must comply to a standard and thus must show the relevant marking. It seems a lot of faffing about when a new screen, ready to fit is fairly inexpensive. At a guess, I would say the average cost of such a screen fitted would be <150-quid, or even two figures if you know how to fit one.
Thankyou, getting somewhere. To answer your question the point is not so much cost as availability, with the newest of these cars in the UK nudging 20 years old now even big nationals often don't seem to have them on the shelf (and rarity means not much chance of a cheap deal too). Fitting isn't so much of a problem on these things, you're not talking about a bonded screen here, it's just a flat sheet held in with a rubber so most of us can tackle it ourselves.
 
There are plenty of clear screens available (can't see any stock for the green version) and that's looking at the (current) stock two (out of four) suppliers are holding.

I don't see any reason to suggest they're in short supply.
 
But I did not 'just burst in' and this is not a pub. I go to plenty of pubs and have been around the internets for a long time; I know how both work.

then paul you should know how the way you behave on the internet can reflect on the company you represent, your attitude will put people off ever using GLASSTEC Automotive
 
then paul you should know how the way you behave on the internet can reflect on the company you represent, your attitude will put people off ever using GLASSTEC Automotive

How do you work that out?

Oh, this is your cheap attempt to link my professional profile to my internet one. Crack on. I'm not here to sell FIAT Panda windscreens, chief.

You couldn't resist one final dig, and in doing so it's proven my earlier statement about some of the attitude here.
 
O'h dear. See how easy arguments can start?
I think Mr Glassman that you should understand that you are speaking to a small family in the FF Classic Panda section. We are friendly, non-aggressive, and look after the interests of each other in a non-aggressive way.
I agree with Portland Bill . The internet has protocols as well and just posting a confused face is the same as saying to a complete stranger in public that you think they are talking rubbish.
By all means correct anything you feel is wrong, but do it in an informative way.
Fair enough?
"Chief".
 
You know what?
I have just read soem of the reviews on "Paul's" website, and assuming of course they are all genuine, he has a lot of happy customers, so maybe he is a good chap and all this was an unnecessary spat over a small thing? A mis-reading of a comminity atomosphere?
Let's hope so. It's too hot to get stressed about!
Sorry to here about the local Eccles nutters Stiggy.
 
Except me objecting to the closed group attitude?

You can't deny the immediately spikey response from your man. It would have been far more welcoming and would have been much easier not to be so stand-offish at that moment.

F*ck me, it was like the Slaughtered Lamb scene in American Werewolf in London.

I have no axe to grind, points to score or point to prove. I did not appreciate the tone of Portland Bill's comment and as such I responded so. Why several of you have decided to steam in is quite funny and typical of closed groups.

ok but since you are a glass expert could you please share some light on the PANDA WINDSCREEN
please
we all "need" such infos on this forum
cheers(y)
 
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O'h dear. See how easy arguments can start?
I think Mr Glassman that you should understand that you are speaking to a small family in the FF Classic Panda section. We are friendly, non-aggressive, and look after the interests of each other in a non-aggressive way.
I agree with Portland Bill . The internet has protocols as well and just posting a confused face is the same as saying to a complete stranger in public that you think they are talking rubbish.
By all means correct anything you feel is wrong, but do it in an informative way.
Fair enough?
"Chief".

Fair enough, however your 'chief' quote/remark doesn't appear so.

Re: "just posting a confused face is the same as saying to a complete stranger in public that you think they are talking rubbish." I'm sorry if this shatters your - or his - ego, but he was talking rubbish, and it seems he took exception to the inference.

You know what?
I have just read soem of the reviews on "Paul's" website, and assuming of course they are all genuine, he has a lot of happy customers, so maybe he is a good chap and all this was an unnecessary spat over a small thing? A mis-reading of a comminity atomosphere?
Let's hope so. It's too hot to get stressed about!
Sorry to here about the local Eccles nutters Stiggy.

All reviews are paid for, or written myself; of course they're all genuine!

Free Index has a fairly good way of verifying them but moody reviews are not impossible. However creating over 100 dodgy accounts for the sake of trying to make me or my business look good would be a monumental clusterf*ck.

That aside, you make a fair comment, thank you.

ok but since you are a glass expert could you please share some light on the PANDA WINDSCREEN
please
we all "need" such infos on this forum
cheers(y)

I didn't see what else there was to discuss, or have I missed something amongst all the exchanges?

Moving on, I'm not sure why anyone would want to cut a Panda screen from a sheet of flam; I can't see the point. Any forward facing glass must comply to a standard and thus must show the relevant marking. It seems a lot of faffing about when a new screen, ready to fit is fairly inexpensive. At a guess, I would say the average cost of such a screen fitted would be <150-quid, or even two figures if you know how to fit one.

I'm happy to help in any way that I can.
 
This went totaly OFF TOPIC!
Title says "smashed windscreen" not " how do I interpret other ff users"
All- please stop replying if not releated with windscreens.
 
Re: "just posting a confused face is the same as saying to a complete stranger in public that you think they are talking rubbish." I'm sorry if this shatters your - or his - ego, but he was talking rubbish, and it seems he took exception to the inference.

I am still unsure what bit that he posted is rubbish, can you quote it and write the correct answer so me and anyone else reading the thread have the right info? thanks
 
is tractors glass safe glass or the old stuff like used in side windows that shatters in to loads of little squares?


Little squares, I've potted a few tractor windows in my time with muck spreaders and various implements :(
You get covered in squares, toughened not laminated, well they used to be . . .
 
There are plenty of clear screens available (can't see any stock for the green version) and that's looking at the (current) stock two (out of four) suppliers are holding.

I don't see any reason to suggest they're in short supply.
maybe in london, but I`m in manchester, the new screen is marked in the corner,
with "pilkington Laminate" so all`s well, and to misquote a song "I can see clearly now the glaziers gone" :)
 
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maybe in london, but I`m in manchester, the new screen is marked in the corner,
with "pilkington Laminate" so all`s well, and to misquote a song "I can see clearly now the glaziers gone" :)

The stock I checked is available nationally. If anyone still has an appetite for facts, one stockist has a massive distribution centre in Bardon, Leics; another has one the size of a small county in Redditch; another: Birmingham... Pinxton, Notts... all running daily/overnight shuttles to feed their outlets dotted all over the UK.

If you really want a screen, getting one is easy. If you're in Manchester and want to deal with an independent rather than one of the monolithic businesses, try Pro Fit in Trafford Park. Tony is a sound bloke and has been around the trade for years.

Dave: it's time to leave it alone.
 
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