hi gang, im thinking of a set of weller wheels for my panda 750L, just wondering if u have anyother ideas or know if these will fit?
alex

Hi Alex,

Cinq or Sei alloys look great as do 127 Sport alloys. Vern can show you some photos.

Weller alloys would look awesome too - I think I have seen those fitted. Might need some spacers.

Regards

MARTIN

What weller wheels are you looking at?

I have a feeling the sisley wheels where produced by weller.

well ive found some on ebay, item number 160403357225, i would of put the link but i cant untill ive made 5 posts
alex

Not sure if they would be any good as they are the wrong PCD for a Panda and are only 12" so they might look abit small

12" might not clear the front brakes.

Sorry to say this but stay clear.

They wont fit and the tyre size you would need to make them have the same rolling diameter would kill your road holding

As everyone has said, these are not suitable for a Panda as they are intended for the classic Mini.

When looking at wheels there are certain dimensions you need to take into account....

1. Stud spacing (pitch circle diameter, PCD for short ). This is the diameter of an imaginary circle who's centre is the centre of the wheel, and the circumference passes through the centres of the four bolt holes. This measurement shoud be 98mm for a Panda, as it is fo all Fiats.
You can look at wheels with 100mm PCD as there are special bolts available with wobbly heads that can compensate for the extra 2mm.

2. Centre bore diameter. This is the hole at the very centre of the wheel, where the hub nut sits. I'm sure there are alot of people who have chosen wheels with the correct PCD only to find that this hole is too small and the wheels still don't fit. If you're choosing other Fiat wheels you should be ok as Fiat have consistantly used 98mm PCD and 58.1mm centre bore for all its cars. When you start looking at wheels with 100mm pcd though the centre bore diameter becomes more important, for example, some Vauxhalls, VW's, Toyotas, and others have 100mm PCD but the centre bores are smaller than a fiat's so will not fit without extra work.
Many aftermarket wheels are fitted with spigot rings. The wheel itself is manufactured with an over size centre bore of say 75mm, a spigot ring is fitted into this, the spigot ring then has a centre bore to suit the car to which the wheels are being fitted. These rings are easily swapped for the correct size if you buy s/h wheels that have them.

3. Wheel width, diameter, and offset are down to personal preference, within limits. 13" diameter is standard for a Panda and it's probably best to stick with that, unless you especially want to have very low profile tyres, in which case it is possible to go to 14" or even 15".
Wheel width should be kept to about 5 1/2", any more and you run the risk of fouling the bodywork or suspension.
The standard Panda offset is about 35mm I think. This means that the hub mating face is 35mm forward of the centre line of the wheel. In other words, looking at the wheel as if you were looking at the tread of the tyre, the hub mating face is 35mm away from the centre of the wheel, towards the front face. Hope that makes sense, it's much easier with pictures.

In fact have alook at this web site, it's very useful......

http://www.alloyguide.com/home.php

I know that most of you know this stuff, but I thought I'd cover it in a bit more detail for those who didn't like to ask.

That was a spectacular post, helped me a bunch as I'm wanting some new wheels too.

What problems would 15x7" wheels cause. They have an aspect of 45 but I've no idea what that means. Is it the new term for offset or something?

I require 15inch rims to suit the diameter of the disk brakes I plan to fit and I'm looking at Team Dynamics Pro Race 3 wheels.

huckoveraduck said:

That was a spectacular post, helped me a bunch as I'm wanting some new wheels too.

What problems would 15x7" wheels cause. They have an aspect of 45 but I've no idea what that means. Is it the new term for offset or something?

I require 15inch rims to suit the diameter of the disk brakes I plan to fit and I'm looking at Team Dynamics Pro Race 3 wheels.

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Oh good, I'm glad it was of some use.

'Aspect 45' is refering to the aspect ratio of the tyre.
The aspect ratio tells you the height of the sidewall expressed as a percentage of the tyre width. So, if the tyre was a 205/45R15 for example, the height of the tyre wall would be 45% of 205mm, so 92.25mm. The lower the figure, the lower the profile of the tyre.

As for fitting 15x7's on a Panda, I'd say don't. You will have trouble with body clearance, plus I wouldn't imagine it would be very nice to drive. The steering would be heavy and it would follow every deviation in the road, this because you'd need very low profile tyres with an aspect ratio of 40 in order to maintain the correct overall diameter.
This is a good web site for comparing tyre sizes.......

http://www.kouki.co.uk/utilities/visual-tyre-size-calculator

There is alot you could do to improve the brakes, you can adequately increase the size and keep them contained within 14" rims, I have seen posts on this so maybe someone else can advise on details (Lewey? ).

With wheels that size alex you wont be able to go fast enough to use your new brakes.

14 inch max i reckon

This is a bit of a hi-jack, so apologies to the OP.

15" wheels are not easy to fit and come with their own issues, but gearing isn't an issue. 195/45r15s are only 8mm taller than what I run every day and I am considering going a touch taller than this when my tyres are worn. With a larger engine like Alex plans to fit, you want the gearing.

Main issue is the fouling on bodywork.

@Huck: If you are considering my brakes I offered you, there are options to run 14" or 15" wheels with them. I will explain when you come over. Don't buy any wheels until you know the brakes you want!

I have some 15" x 7" wheels with 195/45 tyres. I'm going to test fit them to my Panda to see how they are. 7" is probably too wide though, 6" should fit OK I reckon. I'll post pics later.

lewey said:

This is a bit of a hi-jack, so apologies to the OP.

15" wheels are not easy to fit and come with their own issues, but gearing isn't an issue. 195/45r15s are only 8mm taller than what I run every day and I am considering going a touch taller than this when my tyres are worn. With a larger engine like Alex plans to fit, you want the gearing.

Main issue is the fouling on bodywork.

@Huck: If you are considering my brakes I offered you, there are options to run 14" or 15" wheels with them. I will explain when you come over. Don't buy any wheels until you know the brakes you want!

I have some 15" x 7" wheels with 195/45 tyres. I'm going to test fit them to my Panda to see how they are. 7" is probably too wide though, 6" should fit OK I reckon. I'll post pics later.

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Thanks Lewey, it was the 7" bit that I was most concerned about too.

The 15" x 7" wheels fit with a 10mm spacer on the rear and none on front. Only put one side on. Went for a drive down the road and there weren't any strange noises. The rear would rub if you loaded it. All depends on how hard suspension you intend to run I suppose.

lewey said:

The 15" x 7" wheels fit with a 10mm spacer on the rear and none on front. Only put one side on. Went for a drive down the road and there weren't any strange noises. The rear would rub if you loaded it. All depends on how hard suspension you intend to run I suppose.

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That's quite surprising! even my 175/70/13's rub on the back when loaded, so to have 15" x 7" do no worse opens up the options.
Do you think there would be any performance gains going this route Lewey, or is it a choice better kept for creating a particular look?

VmanC said:

That's quite surprising! even my 175/70/13's rub on the back when loaded, so to have 15" x 7" do no worse opens up the options.
Do you think there would be any performance gains going this route Lewey, or is it a choice better kept for creating a particular look?

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For most this is not gonna be a solution they can live with, so you need to want them, either for look or brakes. I suppose you need to be comfortable with the look, even if there are performance benefits. In the dry, it would afford you epic grip for sure, partly due to the infinitely better tyres that start at 15". The low profile does give you a sure-footed feeling when cornering, even at 40MPH like I just did. Practically speaking they will give you torque steer, a wondering steering feeling, rub on full lock and will increase your unsprung weight unless you find some very light wheels.

I think 6" wide with 195/45 tyres and a slight mod of the rear arch would be fine under most conditions though.

lewey said:

This is a bit of a hi-jack, so apologies to the OP.

15" wheels are not easy to fit and come with their own issues, but gearing isn't an issue. 195/45r15s are only 8mm taller than what I run every day and I am considering going a touch taller than this when my tyres are worn. With a larger engine like Alex plans to fit, you want the gearing.

Main issue is the fouling on bodywork.

@Huck: If you are considering my brakes I offered you, there are options to run 14" or 15" wheels with them. I will explain when you come over. Don't buy any wheels until you know the brakes you want!

I have some 15" x 7" wheels with 195/45 tyres. I'm going to test fit them to my Panda to see how they are. 7" is probably too wide though, 6" should fit OK I reckon. I'll post pics later.

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haha don't worry I'm not daft enough to buy any though without consulting with yourself next week.

After having a browse online and findout out whats available and whats been done to Panda's. You can actually pick up some nice wheels for pretty cheap which is a suprise.

I wonder who the first person to put chrome 22's on a panda will be haha

I think Westwood put some 17s on that green Panda they did.

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lewey said:

I think Westwood put some 17s on that green Panda they did.

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and for only another £100 perhaps the other side too?!!

Cheeky