General Grounded Selecta Gearbox sump = Leaking CVT oil and new sump needed

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Grounded the Selecta the other day on a pot hole. Now have a massive dent in the gearbox sump and I'm loosing oil.

Does anyone know the best place to get a new sump from? I''m going to Fiat this afternoon to try and get a price and order one.

Only pain is I'm suppost to be clocking up 700 miles in the next week

Many thanks. Jon.

 

[xsparky]

Grounded the Selecta the other day on a pot hole. Now have a massive dent in the gearbox sump and I'm loosing oil.

Does anyone know the best place to get a new sump from? I''m going to Fiat this afternoon to try and get a price and order one.

Only pain is I'm suppost to be clocking up 700 miles in the next week

Many thanks. Jon.

Came across this on ebay the other day, don't know if it's the right one.
Mike
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OIL-SUMP-FIAT-CINQUECENTO-PANDA-SEICENTO-UNO_W0QQitemZ320160234255QQihZ011QQcategoryZ10382QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem

 

[xsparky]

Grounded the Selecta the other day on a pot hole. Now have a massive dent in the gearbox sump and I'm loosing oil.

Does anyone know the best place to get a new sump from? I''m going to Fiat this afternoon to try and get a price and order one.

Only pain is I'm suppost to be clocking up 700 miles in the next week

Many thanks. Jon.

Tell a lie, it was this one - Mike

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-Oil-Sump-...ryZ10382QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[petel]

Part number 9945544, price in late 07, £40.08 plus VAT.
Rgds.

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Hi, Thanks for all the replys.

Just been under and tightened the nuts to see if its leaking because its worked loose. I made sure I didn't over tighten them.

Leaking has slowed or stopped (might just be residue coming off still even though I wiped down area).

Drove to Tesco and got 1/4 and decided to stop, as there is a slight wining sound (Hydraulic pump?!?) when the car is above crawling speed. This also happens when revved in park or neutral.

Could this be because of a lack of fluid? I check it before going and it was all fine for a Cold engine and gearbox, car was last used 1100 this morning so was cold. But when check 1/4 from home was very low. So left car and walked home to have dinner and get funnels to top up fluid. Managed to get some CVT oil today. £9.38 for 1Litre!

I'm going to top up the oil and get a new sump and gasket to replace it but Fiat who for once are the cheapest are having to get it from Italy and are quoting 17th April delivery! Should the car be usable until then if the oil level is kept topped up? Its just I'm down to Sussex and back Twice next week.

Heres a few pics of damage.





Thanks again for your help. Jon.

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Tell a lie, it was this one - Mike

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-Oil-Sump-...ryZ10382QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Many thanks for looking, just its a gearbox sump I need not engine. I'm going to have a look on eBay in a bit. Might be lucky

 

[Steven]

That must have been one hell of a pothole. Bad luck.

 

[dave]

i think you are going to have to take it off, then bash it out and weld it if its got hole in, or take it to a pannel beater and ask them to do it

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

That must have been one hell of a pothole. Bad luck.

I know. It didn't feel like that bad a pot hole when it happened, but enough to make me stop and look. But all seemed fine (didn't get on my knees because it was snowing). Then noticed the other day oils spots on the drive but assumed it was dads 1000cl leaking because it normally is his, and as the Panda's are always playing musical parking spots, I wrongly assumed.

i think you are going to have to take it off, then bash it out and weld it if its got hole in, or take it to a pannel beater and ask them to do it

Went to a Gearbox specialist 15 miles up the road. The good old school type and he suggested removing it and knocking the dent out if there isnt a hole in the sump, and putting it back on with a new gasket. So might do that but am tempted to get a spare before incase it splits when knocking it back out as the car won't be useable then.


Good new though. Topped up the CVT oil and the wining noise has stopped, so its now just the leak to sort. Might tighten sump more, but don't want to over tighten incase of damaging the treads. Is this easily possible?

Jon.

 

[dave]

no dont risk over tighterning them

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

I'll keep it topped up for now then with the £10 a litre oil, and get it sorted when the sump I order from Fiat arrives then.

 

[dave]

you can get it in 5ltr at a time cheaper, dont over fill that will cause worse problems

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Yes, I'm going to get the 5L one tomorrow. O what damage can overfilling do (out of interest)?

 

[dave]

i not remember it blows seals i think, i remember it bad though

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

i not remember it blows seals i think, i remember it bad though

? don't quite understand, sorry.

 

[dave]

just remember its bad to over fill and dont do it

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

just remember its bad to over fill and dont do it

Its ok, What you said in your post before this one does make sense. Me miss reading it at the time. Lol.

It probably won't, but I'll have a look tomorrow, do you think the sump off of the gearbox on the 750L I'm using as a donor might fit? I'm not sure if its different though because its Manual. As I say, I'll have a look. It might be an easier way to sort the problem in hand. Went and checked the tub I've put under the leak earlier and in 3 hours only 4-5 dripps have come out. So is looking better already

 

[dave]

will be diffrent, i think a mk1 punto selecta one or uno selecta one be more likely to fit

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Many thanks. I was also thinking 1108cc Siento CityMatic's. Think there are one or two in a scrappy which I regularly go to. Think I may as well buy a new one though, because by the time I'm fafed with removing one from a salvaged car.

The thing I'm still trying to decide is, do I get it from Fiat and wait until the 17th April for delivery from Italy, or get it online else where, where I have found it for £10 more but can have it for Tuesday next week? I'm thinking with all this fluid I'm slowly loosing, at £10 a Litre its going to be better (and more environmentally friendly with the oil leaking out) to pay the extra £10, fit it and be done with the worry.

 

[dave]

you can get some putty stuff that might temp repair it.

a CityMatic's just a manual type box with extra bits iirc