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Old 07-06-2017   #1
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Fiat Siena/Palio OEM rims

I have the Palio/Siena 178 model. The car currently has the 14 inch 98PCD 5J rims on. It runs on Michelin 175 65R14 Energy Savers. Brilliant tyres and it goes more than the distance.

I am now investigating the possibility of changing the rims, but as close to the OEM specifications as possible... Peter Pickup swayed me in that direction some time ago... and thank you for that.

So, I have studied tyre width, pcd's, circumverances, etc. I was thinking of getting a steel rim, 14 inch 98PCD 6.5j (or 6j) which would easily take a 195 65 R14.

My theory is that the extra width with give more stability and tyre noise reduction and will also not interfere with the speedo.

Can anyone advise if this is ok to do? And I off the mark here?

Any suggestions or comments are welcome.

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Re: Fiat Siena/Palio OEM rims

what a co-incidence , i have a 2002 fiat palio 1.6 GTX , standard rim and tyre sizes are 1.6 16V GTX 51/2 Jx14C(*) 175/65 R14
guess what i insatalled ,,,,, get ready !!!

205 / 55 / R15 !!!!!
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That will be great. I am a bit confused on the issue. I don't want to do the wrong thing. Here is a picture of what mine looks like at the moment...

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I had the same ones, but after I installed 205/55 R15 there is slight steering play not a whole lot but slight movement in steering while car is in motion , I plan to do wheel alignment and wheel balancing which should solve the issue I presume, I have had no scraping issues yet as I drive cautious, if u can go for 205/50 R15 it will be awesome, my car tires are looking awesome, many people have asked and commented on it.
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Re: Fiat Siena/Palio OEM rims

15" tires will NOT fit the original 14" rims....!!
I changed to 15"alloy's years ago on our Palio, with 195/50r15H Pirelli tires.
So if you're not satisfied with the original 14 inch wheels, why not change to 15 inch alloy's...??
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15" tires will NOT fit the original 14" rims....!!

I changed to 15"alloy's years ago on our Palio, with 195/50r15H Pirelli tires.

So if you're not satisfied with the original 14 inch wheels, why not change to 15 inch alloy's...??


I don't understand. I want a wider 14 inch rim...
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I don't understand. I want a wider 14 inch rim...
No problem, but you have to stick with 14" tires.
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No problem, but you have to stick with 14" tires.


Yes, that is what my original post said! Sorry, am I missing something here?
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Quote Originally Posted by octane_fx View Post
what a co-incidence , i have a 2002 fiat palio 1.6 GTX , standard rim and tyre sizes are 1.6 16V GTX 51/2 Jx14C(*) 175/65 R14
guess what i insatalled ,,,,, get ready !!!

205 / 55 / R15 !!!!!
will try and upload pics
comments any one ?
He did fit 15 inch tires...
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Re: Fiat Siena/Palio OEM rims

Yes 15" alloy rim and 15" tyres, the 14" steel rims are kept aside. Might sell em, if u can go for xxx/50-R15 they will look wide and hold more road,
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I think 15 inch is the way to go, when changing original wheels on a Palio, indeed!!
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Re: Fiat Siena/Palio OEM rims

Thank you Peter. You are always the voice of reason! I find that the 1.7TD's engine might be a wee bit heavy for the front body.

When the vehicle is hoisted, you also have to move the adjusters for the hoist way forward, otherwise the car tilts forward.

This I think, had an impact on the front suspension. So (as per your advise) I am going to go for the 15 inch 98pcd rims with a 195 tyre.

But... I am going to take precautions.

I am investigating putting a strut brace between the struts so as to stiffen up the front body. This is my opinion will reduce roll and at the same time tyre wear.

Front tyre wear and particularly on the inside, is a problem I have been having and I think it is due to the weight of the 1.7TD engine.

I am going to replace all the bushes with polyurethane ones and after that I will fit the strut brace.

I have been surfing the net... everywhere and can't find a brace for the palio/siena/albea models. I will have to make my own. See picture of the wooden beam across the engine bay.

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Following this, I will also do the rear suspension and ad a brace bracket between the two struts in the boot area.

Any thoughts you might have, will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Fiat Siena/Palio OEM rims

Search for wheels with 35 (or less) offset, and min, 6,5J wide.
I used to have an adjustable strutbrace on my Palio Weekend as well ( and now I have a brace on my Alfa GT....!).
Does it do much...??
No, but every bit counts, right....
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Thank you so much. Where did get the strut brace for the Palio Weekend from?
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