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Re: FIAT PETRA (SIENA) 1.6 Petrol maintaince advise

Hi Peter
Again thank you for all the details you have provided
I will search for Fiat Original spares but if i don't get I will have to rely on OEM's like Bosch.
About the fuel, adulteration is very common over here and cant be helped with
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Re: FIAT PETRA (SIENA) 1.6 Petrol maintaince advise

OK, let's hear how it works out!
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OK, let's hear how it works out!
Will take a few days to get the job done. Will post about it as soon as all is done
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Cambelt: 0055188191
Adjuster/bearing: 0046424716
Bearing: 0055211287
Belt alternator: 0071749427
Belt adjuster/bearing: 0071734799
Belt power steering: 0055192802
A/C belt: 0046542303.

Hi Peter
The ones marked in red are adjuster with bearings and you have also given the individual part number for the bearing?
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Re: FIAT PETRA (SIENA) 1.6 Petrol maintaince advise

You need all the part numbers.
The cambelt uses a tensioner and a bearing.
The alternator uses a tensioner as well........!!
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Re: FIAT PETRA (SIENA) 1.6 Petrol maintaince advise

Notice the tensioner/adjuster and the idler(bearing), both are to be replaced.


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Re: FIAT PETRA (SIENA) 1.6 Petrol maintaince advise

There are a lot of belts, tensioners and bearings on the 1,6-16V FIAT engine I'm afraid.....!!
4 belts ( if equipped with A/C) and two adjusters/tensioners and one idler/bearing....all needs regular replacing....!!

(Btw, we are going to have our Valentine's diner this evening in an Indian restaurant ( www.moghul.nl) overhere, how about that...!!)
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Re: FIAT PETRA (SIENA) 1.6 Petrol maintaince advise

Hi Peter
Seems a little confusing to me now. Thought it would be simple :P
Anyways will try to understand tomorrow early morning after a proper sleep

I am sure you will like the Indian food. I dont eat so much of non-veg so cant recommend you but generally the chicken with indian gravy is good
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Re: FIAT PETRA (SIENA) 1.6 Petrol maintaince advise

Well, it's not that complicated....!!

(BTW, we are vegetarians, that's why we like the Indian kitchen a lot.., no chicken for us..!!).
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Well, it's not that complicated....!!

(BTW, we are vegetarians, that's why we like the Indian kitchen a lot.., no chicken for us..!!).

Okay, then try the DAAL TADKA with Jeera Rice and PANEER TIKKA MASALA with some ROTI (MISSI OR RUMALI ROTI)

Not sure if all this is on the menu
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Hi Peter
The following thread from the forum also recommends to change also the Water pump along with cam belt. Also all axillary belts (i assume they are the other belts which you have mentioned) and all tensioners and bearings

http://www.fiatforum.com/coupe/43380...-cam-belt.html

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"I can't say categorically, but as you'd have to remove the belt to change the water pump, so it might be a good idea. On the coupe, many cambelt failures aren't due to the cambelt snapping, but the auxillary belt snapping, then getting caught in the cambelt. A seized water pump can cause the aux belt to snap, so while it would cost more money to have it all done at once, it's less than changing them individually, and less than fixing a broken engine!"

"You should get the cambelt, the auxillary belt, and all associated tensioners done at the same time. It's not a bad idea to get the water pump changed too, as it's about 35 I think, and easy to do at the same time. This changes thae parts bill from about 15 (for the cambelt) to about 200 (tensioners are expensive!). But it's the labour that costs a bit anyway.
While the belt is being done, get the garage to check that the cambelt cover doesn't foul the cambelt, as on early cars the cambelt cover warps over time and can gently rub the cambelt."

please see this as sensible advice.i have seen 16 v's and 20 v's cambelts snap way before 50k.sometimes its the counter rotating belt that snaps and takes the cam belt with it.so cam belts should be changed as follow.all non turbo engines - 36k. all turbo engines - 24k.the last figure is low,but these engines have the most wear on the cam belt due to the torque.all tensioners and the water pump should be changed as well as any auxillary belts.how much does a head cost to fix if the belt snaps?

Sorry to piss you off with so much reading on a holiday. But please try to clairfy my doubts on the auxiliary belt, counter rotating belt and the water pump
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Re: FIAT PETRA (SIENA) 1.6 Petrol maintaince advise

Just came back, had a wonderful meal at the Indian restaurant, vegetarian meal for two, lot's of different things, don't remember all the names, but it tastes good!
It always reminds us of our journeys in England....!

As for the waterpump, in my opinion it's only necessary with high(er) km readings ( mileage).
If the engine has done less than about 150000 km's and the pump is not leaking, and has no play, it's a waste of time and money.
I changed the cambelt three times on my Palio until now (145000km), never changed the waterpump....
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Hi Peter
What about the auxiliary belt and counter rotating belt mentioned in the posts?
Glad to know that you enjoyed the meal
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Hi Peter
Called up many people regarding belts. None of them had everything in stock and were asking for samples to see if they can get one. I could not risk removing the bearing for them and then hearing they cant get it for me
One guy said that he will remove all the cables and bearings i want from a new engine which obviously is untrue because 1.6 petrol engines are not used it linea's and punto's and i don't understand why would a spares dealer keep a new engine in his godown. Its obvious that its from an engine which is removed from a car met with an accident.
I will try with authorized service centres in m city else other major cities in India.
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Hi Peter
What about the auxiliary belt and counter rotating belt mentioned in the posts?
Glad to know that you enjoyed the meal
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= alternator, powersteering and A/C belt.
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