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Old 01-06-2017   #1
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I'm an airhead (aircooled vw's) and love the little buggers, but the goose bought a 2001 palio 1.6 16v EL and it comes std with water and a radiator and water pump and water hoses. Surely all this water can't be good for an engine. Plus we are in the 100yr drought in Cape Town so wtf are we to do? Use sea water maybe.. Anyway a long story short I HATE working on watercooled cars.
And I truly hate FIAT!!
But what are you to do when you love the goose?
You smile, swallow the bile that is COMMING from the pit of disgust and work on her car. Well that's if you ever want "happy time" in you life again..

So far there has been ignition switch problem, alternator replaced twice, hunting, radio issues, AC blows hot air even when on cold, terrible fuel consumption compared to my Ford Icon 1.6 which gets over 1000km on a tank and lately it's over heating.

So here I am with no happy time till the car is fixed and working with water...

Eish the Force is sadly missing from this#%\\*}#^||^
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Hi , sounds fun
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Re: Hi

So maybe my first question should be where to find the water pump?
Question two is how to remove it and check its operation?

Yesterday I removed the stuck thermostat from the housing and replaced housing without a thermostat (as I don't have R1000 for the complete unit) but it still over heats. So that points to water pump.

Advice would be much valued.
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Ok so to remove the water pump you must remove the following.
Air box
Air inlet pipe big fat one
Timing gear ass cover
All of that so that you can actually get the tools to the nuts etc. never mind huge ass hands.
Next.
Loosen stearing pump, alternator and lower belt tensioner,
Remover v belt off steering pump, alt pullys.
This must be done so that you can get to the nuts on the water pump.
That's as far as I have got.
Tommorow I attempt to get my hands in behind the water pump to remove the iwatee pipe...
SugarHoneyIceTea I have watercooleds....
To be continued...
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You have to unbolt the engine support, and lift it, otherwise you won't get the bolts out...
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Sorted water pump and flushed radiator, 50/50 mix antifreeze/water. Runs in normal temp range for a week... Then temp shoots into red while waiting at the robot after coming off the freeway, fans going on. Same overheating problem returns. New with the added fun of a blown head gasket...
And then just to screw with you, the unsuspecting fiat owner, some more they add female splined cam cover bolts, which by the way you don't have in your toolbox and have bring a sample of the bolt in so that the rocket scientist behind the autozone counter can see which socket will fit the bolt... WTF?!?! Where is the logic in that. No really??
I can also see Allen Key bolts in the head?
So are there any other special tools needed to strip the head? Or will 5l of petrol and a match be a better option...
Oh my helmit I hate watercooled cars....
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May the FORCE be with you....!!!

You can do it, I'm sure!
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So after spending R167.70 on a no9 ribe socket and walking to autozone in strand and back to Sir Lowrys Pass and previous mentioned rocket scientist insisting that it is a no9 & not a no8 I have to return to get the no8 robe socket. Eish...
So I have decided to reassemble the engine and flog the dead donkey as is. The goose has had the car for 9mnths and it has been Broken for 6mnths of that time. Some times you have to Force Choke irritating minions and be done with it.
So for sale:- one pizza ****z tzu Fiat Palio some tlc or a nuke needed.. All yours for R40000! And if you act now I'll include free of charge bucket loads of frustration and spare WTF confusion. I'll also include some "I don't give a f@$k just take it away" and a spare size 9 ribe socket which won't help you at all.....
Don't know if I've mentioned this but I truely HATE watercooled cars.
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