Punto (Mk1) Is it non interference?

Currently reading:
Punto (Mk1) Is it non interference?

Cento78

New member
Joined
Jul 14, 2014
Messages
39
Points
6
Hi All, I'm back with the Fiat Forum after a 2 year break, I'm now in the ownership of a very clean Mk1 Punto 60s on a 99 T plate, what I want to know is if the 1242cc 60bhp is a non interference or interference engine. The Belt was changed at 36,000 and it's now on 66,000 but it was replaced 8 years ago. Can anybody help?
Cheers
Bill
 
Hi All, I'm back with the Fiat Forum after a 2 year break, I'm now in the ownership of a very clean Mk1 Punto 60s on a 99 T plate, what I want to know is if the 1242cc 60bhp is a non interference or interference engine. The Belt was changed at 36,000 and it's now on 66,000 but it was replaced 8 years ago. Can anybody help?
Cheers
Bill

Hi Bill. Non interference..

but for the 35 quid I would do the kit.

Charlie
 
yep, all 8v FIRE engines are non-interference. All the 16v ones inc. tjets are interference engines.

From memory the interval is 50k or 5 years, whichever is sooner. So I agree with Charlie, just swap it out - its easy and cheap. £35 is a bit steep for just the belt kit but just over that will get you genuine belt and waterpump kit from S4P ;) https://www.shop4parts.co.uk/?name=store&op=Details&ProdID=13818&sku=253764
Donated members have access to 10% off discount code for S4P too ;) ;)

Waterpump is prob not necessary as such but i always change it when changing the timing belt because why not..

With such a low mileage its very possible alot of rubber parts have gone hard and/or cracked. So spend a while going round the car checking everything but rubber items in particular like all the suspension bushings.
 
Last edited:
Hi all, cheers for the replys regarding the Punto timing belt, the info has put my mind at rest for a bit. It looks a fairly straightforward job, but knowing my luck, I'll come across a bolt or screw that's seized in and won't come out halfway through the job and I'll end up snarling and cursing so I think I'll ask a local garage to do it ASAP.
 
Hi all, cheers for the replys regarding the Punto timing belt, the info has put my mind at rest for a bit. It looks a fairly straightforward job, but knowing my luck, I'll come across a bolt or screw that's seized in and won't come out halfway through the job and I'll end up snarling and cursing so I think I'll ask a local garage to do it ASAP.

Hi,
it's basically the same as the 1108 cinq, ;)
so;
bottom pulley 3 x M8 bolts

plastic cambelt cover 4 or 5 x M6 bolts

one M8 ( 13 mm Hex.) nut that holds the tensioner in place,
2 minute fiddle swapping the belts,

and put it all back - like this
https://www.fiatforum.com/cinquecento-seicento-guides/100553-cam-belt-change-gars4.html
text only - 4 pages of info.;)

tensioner info ( mk2 - so more junk in the way..) some better pics

my own 1108 guide - but modern Panda;)

Charlie
 
Cheers guys, sounds simple enough, but looking at it yesterday it looked like I'd have to remove the sensor at the bottom of the engine as well as the bottom pulley, and the last time I tried to remove one of these the screws were seized in on the Cinquecento I had.
So basically it's : Jack the car on the drivers side, remove the wheel, remove cam belt cover, loosen the tensioner and pulley bolts, loosen and remove Alternator drive belt(the other way round), make sure timing is not lost by marking the timing marks on TDC at the pulley end of the engine, remove timing belt, and then it's the reverse putting it back together?
It had a new tensioner at 36,000, I'm changing the belt due to it's age, it was replaced 8 years ago!
 
you have to undo the bottom pulley so you can see the timing mark on the crank sprocket - i think these are what you mean you struggled with in the past, they are not generally that hard to get out though.... few ways to stop the engine rotating as you undo the bolts:
-you can just stick a screwdriver through one of the gaps in the pulley and then you can wedge it against the engine while you undo the 3 bolts.
-Or put the car in gear and get someone to press the brake, this stops the wheel turning which in turn stops the gearbox turning which in turn with it in gear will stop the engine turning.
-Or you can wedge a big screwdriver in the teeth of the flywheel to stop it turning.
I usually go for the first of them as i'm normally on my own

the sensor there, the crank sensor, you don't need to touch that at all...

once that pulley is off rotate engine from the crank until the timing marks on crank and cam both line up, undo the tensioner and remove belt, double check the timing is lined up before you fit the new belt - i have seen countless cars with the timing out a tooth. Whack your new belt on, cam first then down round the waterpump, then crank then tensioner. Tighten tensioner, check timing marks, rotate engine (from crank not cam) 2-3 times and recheck timing marks. Assuming its ok refit the bottom pulley taking care to put it the right way, little pip on the sprocket in the little hole on pulley. Refit belt cover, aux belt, inner arch liner, wheel etc. Job done.

Its as Charlie says, exactly same as a cento 1108 engine but on the punto you have way more room making this whole job much easier and less fiddly. I would say the hardest part on a cento is getting the belt cover off and on but no such problem on the punto.
 
Cheers "blu" very useful, more useful than the info in the Haynes manual as that tells me to refer from one chapter to the next and back again which I find a bit annoying, the pictures are useful though. The screws I had trouble with in the past are the two screws on the crank sensor, the cinquecento I had, had the 900 OHv engine so there was no need to change the timing belt.
But you've made the job sound more straight forward, one more question though, do I need to jack the car up and remove the front off side road wheel?
 
yes, jack up that side and put on an axle stand for safety, take the wheel off and inner arch out. The the aux belt and lower pulley is right there in front of you with good access.

I mean its probably possible without but there is no reason not to remove the wheel and arch liner as it makes it really easy to get at everything.
 
Cheers for the advice "blu", I've got a timing belt kit on order from my local motor factors which I'm picking up tomorrow(Monday), and as soon I get a chance and a break in this soggy weather we're getting at the moment I'll give it a go.
Cheers
 
One more question, apparently there is a tool for adjusting the belt tensioner, is there an alternative to this tool?
 
flat blade screwdriver to lever, 13mm spanner to tighten nut... never used or even seen a tool for it.

as you saw in my pics, I use circlip pliers,
90' ones work perfectly, and are just the right size so you can get in there.. but NOT over tension the belt

the basic test is that you can "just" twist the belt through 90' on it's longest span
 
Hi all,
Well, timing belt, tensioner, water pump replaced and just done 300 miles this weekend in the Punto without any hitches, so far so good, only minor issue is the clutch is starting to get a bit juddery, but apart from that a nice little motor.
 
Back
Top