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Doblo How to change the rear handle on my doblo cargo van

Phillwebb

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Can anyone tell me how to change the rear door
Handle on my doblo van I have the new one it's the central
Locking one many thanks phill
 
Assuming it’s the split door variety:

Open both doors (you don’t want it shutting without a handle or on your fingers)

Inside:

Take the inside handle and pull gubbins off (three long allen head etc)

Take the door cover off (numerous Phillips screws)

Now put some rags etc down the bottom inside the door. this is because if you drop a screw etc when working, if there is nothing to stop it, it will disappear into the bottom of the door and you’ll never see it again.

Outside:

Ping the cover off the door handle (opposite side to the lock) with a small screwdriver or similar

Loosen the bolt you find under it.

Inside edge of the door adjacent to the handle is a Phillips head screw. Loosen it. The handle should be loose now.

Inside the door, there are wires to the central locking solenoid. Unclip them from the Solenoid.

There are two operating rods that connect to the lock for the top and bottom catches. Using a small screwdriver flick the clips off the operating rods and lever the operating rods out of the lock mechanism.

At this point, undo the Phillips screw on the inner edge of the door and the bolt in the door handle. You *should* now be able to jiggle the door handle and central locking solenoid out as one piece now. It may help if you loosen the three Allen heads holding the solenoid to the door handle assembly slightly. You can take the solenoid off, but it’s far easier to keep it as an assembly, because if you take it off, you have to deal with the infamous “Plastic Link” between the solenoid and the locking mechanism. Jiggling it out all together is a pain, but with some judicious pressure on the hole in the door it will come out (or mine did, anyway).

You’ve then got to put whatever you need to keep of the old door handle onto the new one (including the key locking barrel if that’s important to you) and take time to clean it all and lubricate the lot with WD40 or similar *but nothing heavier*. Grease, thick oil etc gets gummy and the central locking won’t work in no time at all.

Replacement is the reverse of... etc etc... BUT don’t get the operating rods mixed up when re-fitting or it’s a PITA, and if the mythical Plastic Link goes missing / breaks – as mine did at some point, which is why I had to do this delightful f***ing job - put it all back together anyway, get some strong wire (think HD paper clip) and make yourself a new one, fixing one end firmly to the hole in the solenoid arm and the other to the lever which pushes the lock pawl out so the operating rods no longer function when the handle is pulled.

I think I got everything, but I may have forgotten some of it. It’s been a while. Others will fill in any blanks.

Most of all – have fun!

You will, honest!


No... really... :devil:
 
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Hi good morning to you I have to remove the lock
Barrel from old lock can you tell me how to do this
And do I do before putting new handle in many thanks
Phill
 
You definitely want to do it with the handle out, but I've never actually done that bit mate - I would *think* that you need to put the key in the barrel, and then there will be some sort of circlip or ring clip that once removed allows the barrel to be taken out??

Sorry I can't help more :p
 
Have you got it out yet :D or do you have the Security bolt in the handle you know the one where you tighten it & the head breaks off, (like steering lock bolts on BMC) so then it is the drill or if really brave the welder :bang:

PS make sure you seal the handle \door joint the water & s**t gets in & seizes the little slider that disconnects the handle as Sinny said it has the spring that is about a hair think
 
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Those little plastic clips Maybe :D or there is a metal variant that is even cheaper S**t:eek:
You will have to take cover panel off Find if top or bottom rod is disconnected & pull manually & by hand
Never had both break loose or any other fault on that side, please report what you find
 
Assuming it’s the split door variety:

Open both doors (you don’t want it shutting without a handle or on your fingers)

Inside:

Take the inside handle and pull gubbins off (three long allen head etc)

Take the door cover off (numerous Phillips screws)

Now put some rags etc down the bottom inside the door. this is because if you drop a screw etc when working, if there is nothing to stop it, it will disappear into the bottom of the door and you’ll never see it again.

Outside:

Ping the cover off the door handle (opposite side to the lock) with a small screwdriver or similar

Loosen the bolt you find under it.

Inside edge of the door adjacent to the handle is a Phillips head screw. Loosen it. The handle should be loose now.

Inside the door, there are wires to the central locking solenoid. Unclip them from the Solenoid.

There are two operating rods that connect to the lock for the top and bottom catches. Using a small screwdriver flick the clips off the operating rods and lever the operating rods out of the lock mechanism.

At this point, undo the Phillips screw on the inner edge of the door and the bolt in the door handle. You *should* now be able to jiggle the door handle and central locking solenoid out as one piece now. It may help if you loosen the three Allen heads holding the solenoid to the door handle assembly slightly. You can take the solenoid off, but it’s far easier to keep it as an assembly, because if you take it off, you have to deal with the infamous “Plastic Link” between the solenoid and the locking mechanism. Jiggling it out all together is a pain, but with some judicious pressure on the hole in the door it will come out (or mine did, anyway).

You’ve then got to put whatever you need to keep of the old door handle onto the new one (including the key locking barrel if that’s important to you) and take time to clean it all and lubricate the lot with WD40 or similar *but nothing heavier*. Grease, thick oil etc gets gummy and the central locking won’t work in no time at all.

Replacement is the reverse of... etc etc... BUT don’t get the operating rods mixed up when re-fitting or it’s a PITA, and if the mythical Plastic Link goes missing / breaks – as mine did at some point, which is why I had to do this delightful f***ing job - put it all back together anyway, get some strong wire (think HD paper clip) and make yourself a new one, fixing one end firmly to the hole in the solenoid arm and the other to the lever which pushes the lock pawl out so the operating rods no longer function when the handle is pulled.

I think I got everything, but I may have forgotten some of it. It’s been a while. Others will fill in any blanks.

Most of all – have fun!

You will, honest!


No... really... :devil:
As your reply to the original post seemed pretty impressive, I thought I'd try my luck. I've just 'inherited' an 03 plate 1.9 JTD. It's pretty good for a freebie but the one issue is ... the rear door lock (main door - twin door type). When I took delivery of it, I was told there was a problem and handed a box of bits. After messing about for a few hours today, everything is cleaned, lubed and back together ... but my box of bits has two things missing. Firstly, the allen bolt that secures the opening mechanism to the back of the lock barrel - obviously pretty essential. Can anyone tell me the length, pitch and type of head so I can get a replacement. And secondly... yes ... the connecting rod/link for the central locking. What does it look like? Any diagrams or pictures would be welcome. i have scoured this forum tonight but can't find this info in any other threads. Many thanks.
 
Firstly, the allen bolt that secures the opening mechanism to the back of the lock barrel - obviously pretty essential. Can anyone tell me the length, pitch and type of head so I can get a replacement.

99.9& sure it's a 5mm. It's the same as the three that hold the central locking solenoid in place. Steal one of those. It hardly needs 3 for what it's doing. Two tight ones are enough, as the sailor said to the... ;)


And secondly... yes ... the connecting rod/link for the central locking. What does it look like? Any diagrams or pictures would be welcome. i have scoured this forum tonight but can't find this info in any other threads. Many thanks.

Been there, done that - nothing. What I did was use some galvanised wire I had handy. It's about as thick as a giant paper-clip, if you know what I mean.
Brief description of how the central locking works: the solenoid pushes a cam arm, which in turns the arm that allows the door to be opened away from the arm that operates the opening rods. So when the handle is operated when the solenoid is pushed right out - "locked" - all that is really happening is the cam that turns when you pull the door handle no longer contacts the cam that operates the rods.

So... there's a square hole on the solenoid arm. I fixed the wire into that hole, wrapped it around so it couldn't come off, then attached the other end of the wire to the "arm" that pushes the "disengaging cam" around, then brought it back the the solenoid arm and wrapped it around, twisted it all together, snipped it off and flattened it all with pliers. It need very little movement, obviously, and *none* in the "push" position - in other words, as soon as the solenoid rod pushes, it should start to move the arm.

Knowing I would have to sort this out was the reason I took mine off complete with the solenoid. There is no way on earth you'll do it with the lock in situ.

Hope that helps... I really should have taken pics :eek:
 
What a brilliant reply Sinny ... thanks very much. Everything I needed to know. I will take some pics too so I can pass on the favour to others. Cheers :)
 
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