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Rear wheel bearings?

Had a little trek down Portugal for a 3 week break, weather was really nice, got a bit chilly at night's, down to a very cool 8c, I nearly had to to put my jacket on - now that's getting cool. Mind you day times were a bit more bearable at 18 ~ 20c.
The drive down from Santander to Castro Verde (840km) was a breeze, I had recently had Cruise control fitted and was like a kid at crismus , it did a great job and I'm chuffed with it. The only fly in the ointment was a right rear wheel bearing started to rumble, we took it easy, got to Castro safely and the next day I ripped it apart. The bearings were bone dry, I washed em out with kerosene, dried em and loaded em with the best grease available, they were quieter after that but the damage had been done, so now it's time to renew them.
Here's what I want to know: where do you guy's n gal's get your rear wheel bearings from?
I've searched on flea bay and there seems to be a variety of bearings available, which isn't the problem, it's the quality I'm more concerned with.
My bug has drum rear brakes, if that makes a difference.
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Re: Rear wheel bearings?

I got mine (Birth ones) from Shop4Parts:

https://www.shop4parts.co.uk/?name=s...earings_/_Hubs

The S4P website is seriously screwed up at the moment. If you try to go in through their home page, all the Fiat models are Alfa ones (Fiat 147, anyone? ) so I had to google search to get the above link. As you're a donated member, you get a 10% discount off the prices shown if you use the discount code. Their prices have taken quite a hike since I last looked.

All of that said, I am no longer a fan of Birth parts. Their front flanges, wishbones and drop links I bought weren't great and didn't last long. Personally, for bearings I'd go with SKF or SNR, and perhaps FAG as 3rd choice. Make sure you get the ABS versions (assuming you have ABS?) as the reluctor ring is built into the bearing shields.

Rear bearings are a really easy job. The only thing to be careful of is avoiding the tip of the ABS sensor when you lever the old bearing assy off. I used a pair of motorcycle tyre levers and they worked a treat.
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Re: Rear wheel bearings?

Hiya mucka, thanks for your reply.

I'll get on to that, I was hoping to get SKF but it's hard to find them these days, or maybe I'm not looking in the right places

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Re: Rear wheel bearings?

VKBA 3540:
http://www.mister-auto.co.uk/en/whee...6862_g653.html
Not cheap. The SNR price is even worse. Sterling taking a dive against the Euro hasn't done us any favours when buying from European parts suppliers.

I haven't looked on ebay to see if that's any better. At least this gives you the SKF part number.

EDIT: A bit bizarre, but true. Same seller, same item, on ebay:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SKF-Wheel-...EAAOSwGYVXDL35
That price is a bit more friendly.
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I think I may still have a brand new rear wheel hub for a drum brake model in the bits I haven't yet sold. I will check in the morning. If so you can have it for 50% of whatever they go for on eBay.
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glowplug, you're a diamond.
Just let me know what it costs for the part and postage - don't forget to tell me how to pay you
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p/s mine is ABS (I believe)
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WMF: thank you dear friend, I'll your reference handy, just in case
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Re: Rear wheel bearings?

Hi All,
My rear passenger side bearing is making a terrible noise. I ordered one and went to fit it today, however the one on there appears to have the cogged ABS ring, but the one I've been sent has the one thats built in so its smooth. I initially though they had sent me the wrong one but having had a look on ebay it seems that its my car thats wrong! I didnt attempt to change it because my other car is not on the road atm so cant afford for this one to be out of action. Anyone know where I could get a bearing with the toothed ABS wheel?
My car is a 2006 1.9 JTD 120 I believe - but theres nothing on the car that actually tells me.
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Re: Rear wheel bearings?

Take a rag soaked in white spirit to the 'cog'. You may well find that it's just crud that's built up over the years and gone solid, attracted by the magnetic reluctor ring. Underneath it all, there's a smooth brown shield like you've (probably) got on your new one.

There's been similar posts made on here in the past (people thinking they've got the wrong bearing, but in fact they haven't!)
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Re: Rear wheel bearings?

Thanks for that, took it all apart again tonight and found as you say, its jsut crud in a nice formation! However, I do have some bones to pick with the simplicity of the instructions on the mini site (its easy and takes 20 minutes), I am half way through and will go down to screwfix (luckily just round the corner as I dont think the multipla would get there on 3 wheels) in the morning to buy an angle grinder to cut the race off - it was hard enough to just get the bearing off (after lots of hitting and prying I found the way to do it was pry from one side and then lever the other side with the breaker bar). The 'hard' bit of getting the nut off was relatively easy, although didnt come off with the breaker bar alone, had to put it on the end of the torque wrench so there was plenty leverage.
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Re: Rear wheel bearings?

The old bearing is a dead cert to come to pieces when you take it off. The inner race, left behind on the stub axle, is a tricky little bleeder to get off its seat. I found a couple of motorcycle tyre levers to be the perfect tools for the job:

http://www.fiatforum.com/multipla/35...ml#post3519830

Lots of alternating wiggly movements on either side were more effective than 'going for the big one' as the race just locked solid on the shaft and then had to be tapped back to the seat to get it square to the shaft. Don't be tempted to use a blow torch, as you'll soon kill the ABS sensor if you do. Easy does it, and keep the levers well clear of that ABS sensor.....
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Well, eventually got the race off this morning (got a dremel type tool and cut into it, didn't split but was somewhere to put the chisel so started rotating). There was actually some corrosion on the race where the bearings ran, looked like pitting but was still shiny, just rough, I guess this is what caused the wear, but wondered what had caused it to go like that in the first place.
I did try the blowtorch - just a kitchen one (feeling pretty desperate last night) which did absolutely nothing, didn't get any warning lights today, so I presume my ABS sensor survived?
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Re: Rear wheel bearings?

If inner of bearing stays on sub axle , which it usually does, drive the stub axle out of trailing arm . This will push the offending inner race off.
Grease your stub axle and drive it back through trailing arm and reassemble.
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