Has anybody fitted braided hoses???? If so which ones? Are they any good? And how much? And where did you get them from?

Wezmoto on ebay does a set of 6 for £75, delivered. His price has just dropped by about £15-20. A lot cheaper than Goodridge and he seems to get reasonable reviews on other forums. Most of the complaints centre around being sent the wrong fittings rather than lines failing.

At that price, they're not a great deal more than standard rubber hoses (certainly a lot less than official Fiat parts). All roundnose Multis are getting on a bit now, so their hoses are likely to be getting tired.

Thanks, i've saved them on my ebay and will make the purchase soon…..
I have a facelift Multipla. I've not been happy with the brake feel, too spongy . I've settled on black diamond six slotted discs and black diamond performance pads…. or maybe Fiat oem pads…and maybe an upgrade to dot 5 fluid or fully synthetic. There's not enough feed back to make a decision on which brakes to fit from other users. Last lot have been pagid but they seem to have dropped off in power and feel as time has gone on. We do 18k a year so they get replaced every 2 years….

Have you ever driven a car with grooved discs? I fitted them on a previous car. Never again!

Must admit, I'm very happy with my Pagid discs and pads, but I only do 8-10k miles p.a.

Why what didn't you like about them???????? I know they made a bit more noise. I just want better brakes. What about drilled or dimpled?

I noticed no diffence on a that coupe 20v turbo I had..just lots of horrible noise.
Have you looked at your rear brakes?
Must say the brakes on my 2001/multi are excellent..

I drive grooved only Black Edition Mtec discs with Ferodo DS Performance pads on my Alfa GT jtd, also fitted red Hel braided hoses.
No noise, and perfect braking...!!


www.mtecbrakes.com
http://www.remmenexperts.nl/en/
www.helperformance.com

lancia8888 said:

Why what didn't you like about them???????? I know they made a bit more noise. I just want better brakes. What about drilled or dimpled?

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A droning noise every time I braked, akin to a completely shot wheel bearing. The discs were grooved EBC items; perhaps another make would be better. Drilled discs are supposed to be a lot quieter. I can't say I noticed a whole great deal of difference in the braking performance anyway - I think you need to be driving like a nutter to notice any difference.

Have you ever had the calipers rebuilt? It makes sense to me to get the OEM kit working 100%, then if you're not happy with that, start trying 'performance' parts. Putting performance discs and pads on won't give optimum returns unless the calipers are up to scratch. To use an analogy an angler-mate of mine uses about expensive fishing gear - "90% of the stuff they sell is to catch the fisherman, not the fish".

Drilled discs can crack between the holes during hard braking....be careful with that.
As I do a lot of (very) high speed driving on German motorways, drilled discs were no option for me...
Again, grooved Mtec discs are as quiet as original...

Thanks for all the feed back guys, I will get the callipers checked before
I carry out any further brake work. It is 9 years old and 136k miles! I think it's cheaper buy new callipers the have them refurbished…. I will check out the mtec discs later….

My GT is almost 11 years old, 190.000mls, just fitted the second set Mtec/Ferodo brakes...they last about 50.000mls.( with hard use).
The Mtec black protecting finish is just superb, three salty winters, still no corrosion...
Btw I use Castrol React DOT 4 brake fluid, change it every two years.

A lot of places selling 'new' calipers are on exchange, so you are in effect buying reconditioned ones anyway. If you send your existing ones away for rebuild, at least you'll be sure that they fit when they come back (and if they don't, you'll have very good grounds for complaint) and you'll know their history. I sent mine to Bigg Red and they did a very good job; just make sure you pay extra for an upgrade finish as the standard one doesn't fend off the salt for long.

how much was the refurb on the callipers?

I've just bought a facelift 120 Multi, and the brakes were truly butt clenchingly awfull, the discs were worn deep but had new pads.
There were deep grooves on the edges, meaning the pistons would have already have extended out quite far, so corrosion/dirt could have entered beneath the rubber boot onto said piston.
Anyway, suspecting the calipers were sticking, I removed the pads and pressed the brake pedal to extend the pistons without them coming out past the seals, then pulling the protective rubber boot down and giving the piston a good clean and a greasing, as well as twisting the piston in its caliper.
For me this did the trick as they were indeed sticking when the pistons were almost fully in ie with new pads....
To finish it off, I bought mtec drilled, grooved discs and mintex pads, they are a little bit noisy but definitely worth it, as I don't now have to jump on the brakes to stop...
I personally dont feel the need for braided hoses at the mo, but would definitely consider them to replace old worn out rubber.
The multi is a heavy old bus and in my opinion underbraked, I've had 4 and they all braked with lets say, leisure...
It may be overkill, but I have considered in my dreams, ie will never happen, putting in a nice set of uprated calipers, (Red Brembos), if you ever work on the standard calipers you will see how weedy they are....