Technical Multipla Clutch, Alternator, Medal, Even more advice...

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Technical Multipla Clutch, Alternator, Medal, Even more advice...

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Hi All,
I know theres been loads of clutch threads, but heres another one..
First of all, anyone that has done a clutch on a Multipla DEFINITELY deserves a medal. I would have paid someone @£300 to do one if I knew someone local I could trust and would do it for the money, ( I already had a clutch kit)
I've done a few clutches on smaller fiats, so I know to dread clutch jobs.
but they were not too bad, as you can usually lie underneath the gearbox and manouvre the box around, as they are not too heavy, so I was dreading the multi.
As Multis are heavy old beasties and have cardboard clutches, I had a 25% uprated clutch from some motorsport outfit which I bought for my old, sold powerboxed multi but never fitted, this has been waiting 4 years to be fitted to a multi in need, so to 2014, my girlfriends 2005 multis clutch started slipping at 75k and the gears were hard to select, so time to fix, jibber, jibber, I was dreading it, rusty exhaust bolts, dreaded driveshafts and starter motors put in by child mechanics.
I also fitted a drop link, and a new alternator.
It took three whole days, outside, showers, and windy cold, by day three I had an aching back, a migraine, and a chill, I was suffering, but ecstatic that I'd completed such an ffing pita pig sh@t tw@t of a job.
So some tips for future heroes :
Alternator : Move driveshaft out of way, alternator drops down, spacer in top mount stayed put, great, usually drops down, sometimes a pain.
Alternator was cracked, common problem, and when I replaced it, the horrible chirrupping, judder noiser on startup disappeared, it wasnt a tensioner as I'd thought.
Clutch : Didnt drop subframe, but didnt drop gearbox out either, just moved it out of the way so I could get the clutch in and out. The gearbox is a heavy booger, and I couldnt move it properly underneath so give up, shattered.
Luckily all exhaust bolts came off, oiled and greased after.
Starter motor bolts, two of them hidden, but guessed where they were, ie 3 bolt triangle, 13mm, scratched arms.
N/S drive shaft, took clip off cv boot, moved boot back so I could get allen key tools on properly, didnt want to strip any by bad angles...experience...
Tools : From years of owning Fiats..I have a good tool kit, with lots of 3/8" extensions (you need), and a really usefull stubby 3/8" ratchet with a flexible handle, my best tool, which I use all the time, (you need).
I used 3 trolley jacks and two axle stands, I didnt want to be squished.
Gearbox mounts, I removed both mounts as complete units, didnt mess with central bolts.
Thats it for now, good luck to any future Fiat victims!
 
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N/S drive shaft, took clip off cv boot, moved boot back so I could get allen key tools on properly, didnt want to strip any by bad angles...experience...

Hi MultiplaAbarth,

Thanx for the thread. I love it when people tell it like it is! I know what you mean, I'm only a third of the way through the clutch job, and already it's nearly done me in!

As for N/S drive shaft, I know it's shutting the stable door... if you were doing what I think you were doing, no need to remove cv boot, here's what I did:

"Notes for Novices/Section 26 Disconnect NS drive shaft: I tried to do as instructed using a tool designed for the job I didn't even realise I had in the bottom of my toolbox: a solid piece of metal 6mm allen key at one end and 10mm allen key at the other. Forgot that I'd undone a drive shaft on one of my earlier cars a *long, long* time ago. Slotted the fat end into a 10mm socket at the end of my wrench but found that the socket was two wide and was pushed sideways by the fat end of the driveshaft (CV?) boot, so that I couldn't fit the 6mm bit square/perpendicular into the drive shaft bolt head. Worried that I might damage the bolt heads I took a break and waited for inspiration...

...which came after a tea break: I sawed the angled end off a good quality metal 6mm allen key leaving me with a 2in (5cm) straight piece of allen key, which, fitted into the 6mm socket, could now be inserted square/perpendicular into the drive shaft bolt head. Some steady pressure on my wrench and that very satisfying feeling as the bolt head begins to turn. Hey presto!"
(See pics below...)

You can follow my progress at:

https://www.fiatforum.com/multipla/345166-multipla-jtd-1-9-clutch-replacement-progress.html
 

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Nice one.
Just about to undertake the same dreaded job. Not a complete beginner but it's always good to know what 'interesting' saga's have befallen other 'hero's'.
Well done lads.
George
 
Multipla Clutch . . .

. . . and have a cardboard clutch . . .

"Cardboard Clutch?"

"Aye"

"You were lucky. We drove for three months with a paper clutch we found in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, change the paper clutch, eat a crust of stale bread, drive to work down t' mill, fourteen hours a day, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home our Dad would thrash us to sleep wi' his broken cambelt!"

. . . etc :D


With apologies to the Monty Python team (y)
 
Re: Multipla Clutch . . .

Paper clutch?





You were lucky...........................................................
 
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