Dear Everyone, I'm new to this so I hope I will be forgiven for any errors I may make, but I've just, this morning, had even more bad news about my Multipla and really don't know what I'm going to do, and I wondered if there is anyone else who has had such a run of bad luck as I have had with this car, or if there's anyone who has any suggestions as to where I may be able to locate a good, secondhand rear axle, with good trailing arms and bushes, and hopefully reasonable brake shoes/drums? This is the story of our venture into Multipla land, so far ...

Purchased the Multipla (looked decent) in 2011. 'He' is a 2001 JTD model. There seemed to be a slight water leak - took 'him' to a garage day after purchasing to have car checked over - straight away they told me they would have to fit a new radiator. I trusted the garage, they fitted the rad., I paid the money. I was shown the underneath, one small item (?rod) was mentioned (about £50.00) but told otherwise seemed OK. Not long after a radiator hose fell apart whilst we were out shopping - went back to garage via breakdown truck, paid for new hose to be fitted. Not long after that there were problems with brakes - paid for new front discs and pads and new tyres. Icy weather, started car in morning, would not move, had to get children to school or would receive severe reprimand - not allowed to be late - car moved begrudingly, burning smell, then no brakes at all! Got to the school (9-mile drive), was late, explained about car/brakes, school still penalized us. MOT - apparently there were MANY problems with front suspension, emissions - cost a LOT of money to get car through MOT, but couldn't be without car 'cos of having to travel so far to and from the schools. No advisories re rear suspension excepting 'a little welding would be required on ?bump-stop' for later date. Had two new rear tyres fitted, began to hear squeaking from rear? Took car to purchase new front tyres - was suggested I take car to a garage first to get it checked ... rear wheels splayed outwards! I had found, on this Forum, the possible reason why the wheels were splayed - I took car to garage - garage said "Rear axle required" - then reduced that to 2 x new Trailing Arms. I continued to research and found just bushes could be replaced so booked car in at different garage, took it in this morning, after they put it on ramp I received a 'phonecall ...

The rear axle/subframe was rotting - showed me - other garages had said car quite solid apart from the minor welding (which was not mentioned by anyone other than the MOT garage!). One wheel off showed brake shoes almost non-existent (that explained the grating noise then!!), wheel cylinder leaking. Rot around the bump-stop was more than minor - MOT was June 2012 so I assume it has worsened since viewed then, but not mentioned by the garages of later dates. I am almost having a breakdown myself over this vehicle, and have NO IDEA how on earth I am going to be able to afford MORE repairs, but we need a car (I am single parent with two children of minor age) - but I need a car that is SAFE!! The MOST WORRYING thing pointed out to me this morning - and this explains the problem with the rear brakes (I thought they had frozen somehow, but thought this had rectified itself, especially as I was told the handbrake (I'd had issues) was 'self-adjusting') was the fact that, sometime in its history, the handbrake cable had been rubbing against another, underneath, and someone had repaired the damage with INSULATING TAPE rather than replace the damaged pipe!!! Apparently, it's highly likely that when we'd had the freezing weather water had been able to penetrate the handbrake cabling, the brakes had never released - hence the burning smell. So, I don't know what to do - borrow more money and try to get all these latest problems fixed, take a chance with a secondhand axle - if I can locate one ... Would anyone out there have any suggestions as to whether repair by secondhand parts may be a viable option, has anyone else had such a run of bad luck as we have had? - By the way, in addition to these mechanical problems, our poor Multipla was vandalized in a local car park the first time I parked it in there, the driver's door-lock is not working, the remote locking does not work, and I will have to purchase ANOTHER three tyres (one thru' wear and tear, but the two new rear ones because the inners have been rubbed due to the splaying of the wheels!!)

I would be grateful to know if anyone else has been through similar and did they come out OK the other end with all repairs carried out. I also wonder if it is usual for handbrake cables to be taped-up when worn?

I really don't know what to do about our Mr T. If anyone has any nice suggestions I would really appreciate a little cheering up - and a miracle wouldn't go amiss...

Thank you for reading,

Locks, tyres, cables, bushes, brakes &c., &c. Could come to £1k.

Looks like a great deal of money to be spent on a car that's worth little.

I have a car the same engine & year as yours. 175K miles. Owned from new - so I guess that I know what has been done to it.

Personally, as your Multi needs too much at once, I'd be inclined to drive it to the tip & look for another one/something else.

Easy for me to say as I have alternative vehicles to fall back on. Trickier for you I'd guess...

Not what you want to hear, but I agree with disgusted - cut your losses on what sounds like a neglected car and look for another one. If you can, strip it (or have it stripped) of the new parts you've spent out on and keep them for the next one.

A 2001 car is coming up 12 years old. Most (all?) cars won't survive neglect for that length of time without penalty. The Multipla is fundamentaly a good car, but they need looking after. No Multipla of that age will be worth much now, but there are some out there that have been well maintained. Look for a seller that can show you a good service history and a decent wedge of receipts to prove it.

widemouthfrog said:

Not what you want to hear, but I agree with disgusted - cut your losses on what sounds like a neglected car and look for another one. If you can, strip it (or have it stripped) of the new parts you've spent out on and keep them for the next one.

A 2001 car is coming up 12 years old. Most (all?) cars won't survive neglect for that length of time without penalty. The Multipla is fundamentaly a good car, but they need looking after. No Multipla of that age will be worth much now, but there are some out there that have been well maintained. Look for a seller that can show you a good service history and a decent wedge of receipts to prove it.

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Dear Widemouthfrog,

Thank you so much for your very kind reply. I am so sorry not to have replied sooner - I read my other reply but did not realize you had so very kindly replied also. Your reply, obviously, makes much sense. I had such reservations about buying the vehicle when we went to collect but I felt obligated as I'd agreed to buy it, and a neighbour had driven us all the way there, and we were desperate as I still had mobility problems and public transport where we now live is patchy and VERY expensive. I DID take the car to a garage the day after I bought it though, to have it checked over - they were keen to replace the radiator (the first part of the fortune I have had to spend on it!) but, apart from the £50.00 rod that I already knew about, didn't mention there could be other problems brewing. The car had 10 months' MOT with the only advisory being one tyre which the owner had replaced. The car looked smart, no rust on the body, only two owners, sellers a retired couple, so I ignored my gut feelings and paid for it. The garages who have looked under it before should surely have made me aware that other works were going to need to be done - particularly the MOT garage - I watched him inspecting the car. It was a bill of over £300.00 - this was on top of the new tyres, pads and discs I'd just had to pay out for - over £300.00 to supply and fit the radiator, £42.00 for the hose repair, £288.00 for tyres, pads and discs then £340.00 to get the car through the MOT, then warning light on dash - another £54.00 for diagnostic inspection (garage did not discuss with me what they would do nor did they agree any charge beforehand, they'd just said they would check it to find out what was wrong!), now another goodness knows how much for a rear axle with brake shoes, cylinder ... Two garages, recently, have told me that the problems of that rear axle have not 'just happened', that's been building-up a long time. The MOT was June 2012. I 'phoned the MOT garage for a quote for repair of the trailing arms/bushes - their quote was £100.00 more than the garage I eventually took it to. I think I ought to be researching that garage. When I told one of the garages of the cost of the MOT repairs they thought it had been quite excessive for the parts required - I have to pull out the invoice. I think perhaps I've gone to the wrong garages, as well as the poor car having been neglected.

Re the inspection/findings of the garage yesterday though - I knew some welding was going to be needed around the bump-stop, I'd had an idea the shoes would need replacing, and obviously I had taken it in there for the replacement bushes, but I hadn't known about the wheel cylinder (although now I assume that became damaged when I had to drive my children to school with the brakes not fully thawed out - because the school ... they even penalized us when I couldn't drive through the flooded roads! - our village was almost cut-off!) What has really shocked me though, and I don't know if this would be a repair generally - the insulating tape wrapped around the handbrake cable underneath the car where it's been worn away by the other cable (or what is a pipe?) crossing it underneath and the two rubbing together - actually, the fact of their being in the situation of rubbing together isn't right anyway, is it? I don't know who made that repair nor when it was done, but that has really shocked me - I am a single mother with two still-youngish children - it doesn't seem to me that the car was safe with a repair like that or with the cables rubbing together in the first place. Would you know if it's usual for that type of repair, or is it an accepted occurrence that cables/pipes rub together underneath? I don't understand why one of the other garages didn't see that.

I am sorry to write so much in reply - I'm still quite shocked, and very upset. Thank you so much for your earlier reply, and I am sorry to trouble you again, but may I ask if you have ever known of a handbrake cable repair being carried out like that, or if it's considered acceptable that the cables/piping can rub and wear like that underneath the car? It really does not seem safe to me at all - surely the cable should have been replaced and adjusted so it didn't rub against anything?

I am so sorry to trouble you, but I would really appreciate your thoughts. Thank you so much for your kind reply before, and I am so sorry my reply in thanks is so long - with MANY, MANY thanks, and most sincerely,

IsThisGoodbyeMrT

Had SLIGHTLY better news - though no further forward at minute!! Can perhaps get decent secondhand rear axle with shoes, etc. for £150.00. Local garage (lovely people) estimate approx. £180.00 incl. VAT to fit so then it's just handbrake cable. I am taking all this up with MOT garage though 'cos I think something should have been mentioned at that time - I can understand the shoes and possibly cylinder due to the freezing, but surely there would have been signs of other wear and what was to come? IF I'd been told at time of MOT about the rear end I would have cut my losses then, but after spending that amount, plus the diagnostics charge (!!) after that (under the misapprehension that nothing else was going to go wrong for a long, long time), I stuck with it. I have learnt MORE lessons!! There SURELY can't be much else!! We have SO MANY other (serious) things going wrong in our lives at the moment (since moving here) we HAVE to get a break sometime, surely?!!

However!! - Thank you for being there, thank you for the replies - I really appreciate them, and I really appreciate this site being here!! If anyone could let me know their thoughts re the worn handbrake cable and the taping up of it I'd be really grateful, 'cos to me that's quite an issue - I don't know how far the cable is worn, but what would have happened if it had snapped? I would be really grateful if anyone wouldn't mind enlightening me about that - I'm sorry to ask for more help, but if you wouldn't mind I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks ever so much, again!

IsThisGoodbyeMrT (maybe not!!)

Sounds like you've had a real nightmare . With regards the handbrake cable if part of the outer cable has worn due to rubbing on another part and the affected area has been taped up it's not the end of the world.
The water tends to get in at the front of the handbrake cables so would more than likely have happened anyway. Ours had relatively new cables and still froze up last winter, if you search the forum for this topic it has happened to nearly all at one time or another.

Dear Alpitlum,

Thank you so much for your very kind reply - I am so glad I joined the Fiat Forum! - Multipla owners are fantastic!! So helpful and informative - I feel so much better! Thank you!!

I've just finished replying to another very kind owner who sent me a lovely, informative email and I'm hoping things may not be so bad - I think I've paid for the worst parts - the repair of the bushes was unexpected, and finding the cable taped instead of replaced was a big shock to me, but shoes are wear and tear and I'm going to ask the local tyre dealer to check the shiny inners of the tyres where they've worn against the wheel arches. I still don't know what to do about the bushes - we can't live here without transport - we tried it before.

Yes, I've found other postings re frozen brakes - of course I caused damage unnecessarily by driving my sons to school, but didn't have a choice and didn't realize I would make matters worse! - I really ought to learn more about the Multi if I'm going to have one - and avoid such schools as we were attending (another story entirely)!!

I still don't know how I'm going to be able to go about this, but I can't really afford to throw away all the money I've already spent nor take the risk of another mistake!! I shall have to try selling the story of my experiences to a magazine or something in order to recoup some of the cost!! - overall, our experiences of the past few years have been lurching from one crisis to another - and all downhill!! At least I shall be more aware of possible eventualities in future!!

Thank you so much, again, for your very kind email. I really am so grateful to the Members of the Forum - an absolute fountain of knowledge and positivity!! Thank you!!

IsThisGoodbyeMrT?

Judging by the length of your replies, you've got way too much time on your hands!

Anyway, as Alpitlum says, the worn handbrake cable isn't the end of the world. Think of them as beefed-up versions of the brake cables you see on a bicycle and you're pretty much there. They can't leak like a brake pipe (which contains fluid) as they only have a length of wire at their core. It sounds as though the plastic outer covering got chafed and someone's wrapped a bit of tape around it to stop it getting any worse.

Having said that, the irony is that by driving the Multi with the rear brakes part seized (usually caused by water freezing inside the handbrake cable, preventing the inner wire from releasing when the handbrake is let off) you could well have caused more serious damage. The heat given off by the rear brake shoes rubbing on the drums permeates the other brake components inside the drum, including the brake cylinder (which pushes the shoes against the drum and does contain brake fluid). The brake fluid boils and the rubber seals in the cylinder melt, so requiring a more expensive repair.

Funny enough, the cure is simple - when you park up overnight, leave the handbrake OFF and put it in first or reverse to stop it rolling instead. This may sound a bit alarming but it's quite safe. That way, if the handbrake cables do freeze, they won't seize the rear brakes on.

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Judging by the length of your replies, you've got way too much time on your hands!

Anyway, as Alpitlum says, the worn handbrake cable isn't the end of the world. Think of them as beefed-up versions of the brake cables you see on a bicycle and you're pretty much there. They can't leak like a brake pipe (which contains fluid) as they only have a length of wire at their core. It sounds as though the plastic outer covering got chafed and someone's wrapped a bit of tape around it to stop it getting any worse.

Having said that, the irony is that by driving the Multi with the rear brakes part seized (usually caused by water freezing inside the handbrake cable, preventing the inner wire from releasing when the handbrake is let off) you could well have caused more serious damage. The heat given off by the rear brake shoes rubbing on the drums permeates the other brake components inside the drum, including the brake cylinder (which pushes the shoes against the drum and does contain brake fluid). The brake fluid boils and the rubber seals in the cylinder melt, so requiring a more expensive repair.

Funny enough, the cure is simple - when you park up overnight, leave the handbrake OFF and put it in first or reverse to stop it rolling instead. This may sound a bit alarming but it's quite safe. That way, if the handbrake cables do freeze, they won't seize the rear brakes on.

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Dear Widemouthfrog - Thank you so much for your very kind and very informative reply! Yes, I read information about the possible damage if driving with frozen brakes (we didn't have a choice though re the school's attitude and I didn't realize what damage would be caused). The brake shoes would need replacing at some point anyway (and I enquired about those at a garage as I thought they were low). So I'm over the shock of those! I've had some very kind replies about the handbrake cable, and saw an older thread about the freezing and the taping so that's not so much of a shock now either! I've had a very kind information about the rusted bump-stop - I'm hoping that's not as bad as the garage were leading me to believe (I think they were more taken aback than I was, but it resulted in my panicking!!) The big issue is the changing of the bushes - more fiddly than changing the arms themselves. Unfortunately, because the tyres have been rubbing they are a little worn on the inner sides - I'm going to have to check the amount of damage as they are almost new tyres! I'm going to stick with the Multi though - I had a quick look at a few other vehicles online, but for what it's (hopefully not more 'surprises'!) going to cost me to repair the money-pit I already have, I wouldn't get anything else, and I just cannot afford to pay out anymore. I just hope this is going to be the last huge bill for quite some time! Thank you so much for all your advice though - and thank you Fiat Forum - really helpful! I must leave you in peace (this is supposed to be 'Quick Reply'! - oops!) Re: my reams ... yes I write too much, but it doesn't take me long - I type quickly anyway, and I think quickly too!! I'll shut up now though and I have been writing too much today - I've got stacks of things I'm supposed to be doing! - but writing about the experiences and receiving such wonderful replies has helped me so much! Thank you!! IsThisGoodbyeMrT?

Wow, you really have had a real run of bad luck.
It's a tricky decision to make, whether to keep putting money into it and hoping you've fixed everything, or not, but as someone mentioned already, when a Multi (or any other car for that matter) gets towards it's 'teens', they start acting like them, and costing about he same

Personally, I think I'd break it for spares and get something else, but that depends on being able to buy something before recouping what you can from selling the parts, and having the space to store it.

I truly feel for you, and hope you sort something without too much further expense.

Good luck.

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Dear BikeDoc,

Thank you so much for your very kind message - I really appreciate it - the members of the Fiat Forum have truly been so very kind and supportive and informative. Our little Multi, to be honest, is just one thing in a long, long list of 'challenges' we've had over the last few years. It's expensive but, in comparison to what else we've encountered, it's quite minor I suppose. I just wasn't prepared for the broken brake cylinder(s) and I was really shocked about the handbrake cable, but I did know about the bushes and I had plumped for replacement of those rather than the arms (as the arms, apparently, were OK). The garage were wonderful actually, thinking about it - if only we had met with such honest appraisal from the first garage (where I took it for checking, because obviously I wanted to make sure it was not going to be a 'money-pit') then we would not have spent all the money in repairs, but I was only told "It needs a new radiator" - fortunes! - and the rest, apart from the 'rod/linkage' was fine. It was a while before realization hit me what I'd bought and then it was too late to go back. That's the THIRD car since we moved here that I've been taken for a ride over, I thought, this time, spend a little more money and get a good vehicle. I am still so upset that people have taken advantage of us like that, but the Multi is just one thing in a long line. I am just so pleased to have found the Forum - lovely people and really helpful and now I'm not so shocked about the repairs, and apparently the rear bushes are wear and tear, the brake shoes obviously are wear and tear, the brake cylinder was my fault but we were being so bullied by school that I was put under such pressure to try to arrive on time - the school even penalized us for not being able to get there when all roads out of the village were flooded and I couldn't take the chance of leaving my children stranded at schools 9 and 11 miles away from where we have to live!! - after the first day I had to sit outside the schools and wait 'til end of school day as the school were marking my elder son as absent without authorization even though coached pupils couldn't get in either!! - I am now homeschooling!! - and that's just one of the other 'challenges' I'm trying to resolve! - having transport is almost our lifeline - I moved us to the wrong area!!

Thank you for your suggestions re salvaging what we can and purchasing a different vehicle - unfortunately we have nowhere to do that and I don't have the knowledge to remove items anyway - my son suggested doing that, but he's only 12 and, whilst he's really clever re techno (and allsorts) and would LOVE to get his hands on pulling the car apart he wouldn't be able to do that just yet. We're stuck - repair with new, repair with secondhand or scrap ... I found a 'donor' car for sale which is reasonably close to here and still driveable and has MOT but, of course I don't know what the parts I need will be like and I would have to tax and insure it as well as mine until all transfers complete!! 'Phoned breakers but they don't have rear axle in stock - this was repair suggested. I've been 'phoning round garages today for quotes but had no replies as yet. We are stuck. I didn't have the knowledge to know to look for possible eventualities, the garage I took it to for checking over didn't tell me of anything except the radiator, the garage that replaced the front brake discs and pads don't get involved with shoes so those were not checked before the front brake repair ... I shouldn't have bought a yellow car - I bought a 'lemon'! I do so wish I had never, never, never brought my little family to this part of the country - it has been the WORST experience of our lives!! I can't believe all the things that have happened! - but maybe there's a light at the end of the tunnel now, in the shape of the Fiat Forum Members!!

Anyway! - I DO write a lot! - sorry! Thank you so much for your very kind suggestions, and for taking the time and trouble to reply - and thank you, also, for such wonderful little icons included - made me laugh!! I'm going to try to get an article published in a magazine or something, I think - it really is a rotten thing to do to someone, to not be upfront about the item when the item is a lot of money and obviously not something the buyer can afford to do every day, and the vehicle is going to be used for taking children out/day trips, etc. - and I shouldn't be so trusting and ready to please everyone concerned excepting myself!!

Well, lesson learnt - not yet heard back from the garages - maybe they think the cost is going to be too much of a shock! IF that's the case then I may think again ...

Goodness' sake! - my brain is going to go bang!!! - or I'll just get a strong cup of tea and get to work on trying to resolve a different issue!!!

Thank you, again, for all your help and your kind thoughts - very best wishes to you,

IsThisGoodbyeMrT?

ps - I've tried to add an icon, don't know if it will appear!!

IsThisGoodbyeMrT said:

The rear axle/subframe was rotting - showed me - other garages had said car quite solid apart from the minor welding (which was not mentioned by anyone other than the MOT garage!). .............Rot around the bump-stop was more than minor - MOT was June 2012 so I assume it has worsened since viewed then, but not mentioned by the garages of later dates.

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If you do have to have a new rear subframe (I think that's what you're referring to when you say 'rear axle') don't forget that JTDMan on this forum is selling a brand new, genuine Fiat subframe at the moment:

https://www.fiatforum.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=29056

It might sound expensive, but if bought from Fiat it would cost you about three times that amount. This is the part that the rear swingarms bolt on to, and in turn the subframe then bolts on to the car. But you already know that because the garage showed you.....

Dear Wonderful Widemouthfrog!! Thank you so much!! That's my miracle then!! I'm going to send JTDMan a message, though I see he's in Liverpool and would prefer collection - not sure we would make it that far, but just waving the magic wand now ... (!!) The garages I've 'phoned today, to get some quotes, haven't even 'phoned me back!!! - none of them. This really is like a nightmare!! You are ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL!! Thank you so much! I shall send a message now to JTDMan and see if my prayers are answered - thank you! WOW! - What a WONDERFUL place the Fiat Forum is!! - such AMAZING and FANTASTIC MEMBERS!! Thank you so much!!

VERY best wishes and MANY, MANY THANKS!!

IsThisGoodbyeMrT? - Not yet!!!

By the way, this is a cheap place to get good quality trailing arm bearing sets:

http://www.shop4parts.co.uk/?name=store&op=Details&ProdID=897&sku=32136

I've got them on my car and have had no problems with them at all. One set is needed for each arm (i.e. 2 sets in total).

IsThisGoodbyeMrT said:

...ps - I've tried to add an icon, don't know if it will appear!!

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When you're replying, look at the icons across the top of the message 'window'.
They are all your options for formatting your message.
If you hold the pointer over them for a second or two, it'll tell you what each one is for (insert link, text colour, bold text etc).
The one you were after in your post was the 'Smilies' (smily face icon, top row).
When you want to insert one, just click on the face, and then select (left-click) the one you want from the list
The cursor needs to be in the position where you want to add the Smilie.

BikeDoc said:

When you're replying, look at the icons across the top of the message 'window'.
They are all your options for formatting your message.
If you hold the pointer over them for a second or two, it'll tell you what each one is for (insert link, text colour, bold text etc).
The one you were after in your post was the 'Smilies' (smily face icon, top row).
When you want to insert one, just click on the face, and then select (left-click) the one you want from the list
The cursor needs to be in the position where you want to add the Smilie.

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Dear BikeDoc, Thanks ever so much for the info! - I can't believe this, but, I won't be adding a 'Smilie' ... the garages I contacted Thursday haven't 'phoned me back, excepting one who have just increased their estimate by £130.00 for repair of trailing arms (tell me bushes cannot be obtained separately, have to buy reconditioned arms!!) With shoes, cylinder(s), arms their estimate is £683.30!! Local garage quoted me £145.00 for bushes but then found other probs and, since I phoned them for quote for other repairs I've heard nothing more. This is MADNESS!! So, not a happy Easter Bunny - I cannot believe the luck we've had since we moved here. Wonderful Widemouthfrog told me of shop4parts - I looked them up and saw prices - not too bad at all but of course I don't have the knowledge or facilities to carry out the repairs. Oh well, another strong cup of tea coming up ... Taken the wind out of my sails a bit, this morning. Thank you for the icon info though - I'll try to do better next time!! .. from a very deflated IsThisGoodbyeMrT?

Where is this 'awful' place that you have moved to?

Just for my records so that I don't accidentally go there.

Well, not sure it's quite so awful for many - but it's been the WORST experience for us! The car/cars problems are only one part of the downhill slide since we moved here - one lovely mum, who also hated the area and moved away! - said it was like being sucked into a deep black hole. It is very sad, but unfortunately true. Many, many bullies and I'm not the only one, it seems, taken for a ride over vehicles, nor am I the only 'new'comer who wants to leave! Iwish, with all my heart, I had NEVER moved my little family here - and probably the feeling is mutual!

On a different note ... whereabouts are you?

Re little Multi - I am STILL trying to find help - really need to breathe some different air for a while to recharge!

Very best wishes, IsThisGoodbyeMrT?

IsThisGoodbyeMrT said:

Well, not sure it's quite so awful for many - but it's been the WORST experience for us! The car/cars problems are only one part of the downhill slide since we moved here - one lovely mum, who also hated the area and moved away! - said it was like being sucked into a deep black hole. It is very sad, but unfortunately true. Many, many bullies and I'm not the only one, it seems, taken for a ride over vehicles, nor am I the only 'new'comer who wants to leave! Iwish, with all my heart, I had NEVER moved my little family here - and probably the feeling is mutual!

On a different note ... whereabouts are you?

Re little Multi - I am STILL trying to find help - really need to breathe some different air for a while to recharge!

Very best wishes, IsThisGoodbyeMrT?

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Answered like a politician...

Oh ...! Maybe, if I could take that up, someone round here would be a bit more eager to help me with the Multi repairs!?! Hmmm .. I've now started contacting garages in different COUNTIES to see if they'll help - WITHOUT taking us to the cleaners! - will probably end up PUSHING it there! - Mind you, could do a Charity Push to raise awareness of - well, I have a list ...!

Thank you for your message! Happy Easter!