Technical Gear Selection And Fluid Leakage

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Technical Gear Selection And Fluid Leakage

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I have a Multipla 1.9 JTD 2004 which I have owned for 4 months. I have an ongoing problem with engaging the gears, particularly 3rd gear and sometimes it gets stuck in gear. It is also losing brake/clutch fluid but there are no visible signs of leakage. I'm not sure if the problems are connected. A mechanic has had a look at it and reported that the clutch has recently been replaced and not faulty. The gear problem is intermittent but seems to be worsening. I absolutely love the car but I'm out of ideas. Any help or advice would be very much appreciated, Fran.
 
Hi

I've had mine for nearly 2 years, and have had a problem with the car, when warm not going into, or getting stuck, in gear. I drained the gearbox of oil (and metal gear teeth!) and it has been great ever since. One of the best things I've done to the car in way of remedying a problem.

I hope this helps you.

James
 
if you are topping up brake fluid then yes its leaking but where,does the clutch pedal always feel firm,i presume mechanic has checked for leaks inside car on master cylinder [floor wet ],is there a slave cylinder mounted on top of gearbox leaking under the boot,or does it have an internal bearing/slave and if not changed will possibly leak afterwards.
any leaks of fluid.behind road wheels,or is it normal wear and tear of linings for level of fluid to drop.
metal brake pipes rust also which can leak=highly dangerous
 
Clutch slave cylinder is external and relatively cheap, around £30.
This sits on top of the gearbox and can be accessed by removing the battery and associated bits (not too difficult although WD40 is a must!).
You can then check clutch operation, however I'm a little suspicious about the new clutch - do you know if the gearchange issue occurred after the clutch change or was it present before?
 
Clutch slave cylinder is external and relatively cheap, around £30.
This sits on top of the gearbox and can be accessed by removing the battery and associated bits (not too difficult although WD40 is a must!).
You can then check clutch operation, however I'm a little suspicious about the new clutch - do you know if the gearchange issue occurred after the clutch change or was it present before?
The clutch was changed before i bought the fiat but when my mechanic had a look the washers were put on off target so he put new ones on there. I have to fill up the clutch / brake fluid up once a week its fine when this has been done. do you think its a hydrollic problem ?
 
Once a week? Mate, that is seriously bad. My advice would be to stop driving it until you find where that fluid is going. By continuing to drive it you are risking an accident.

Your hydraulic system is losing pressure, this is why it is fine again when you fill it up. You are no doubt getting air into the system as well.
Fluid will run to the lowest point. You need to get under the car, locate it and try to trace it back.
 
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I agree with Snoo. That is a pretty serious leak you've got there. If it isn't making itself evident under the car, check the carpet under the clutch pedal, as this could be soaking it up (though I'd have thought you've be choking on the smell if it's dropping that much fluid).

The clutch master cylinder is difficult to get at (behind the engine). It's easiest to check it if you can get your car on a ramp.
 
Any of you know of a good fiat mechanic in southampton as these no leak visable we think its being sucked throw the engine . thanks for all your help .
 
Wherever the he hydraulic fluid for the clutch is going, it's not going into the engine!

The clutch hydraulic system is a small header tank, master cylinder is behind the engine and the slave sits on top of the gearbox. There are no links to the engine intake system.

If you're losing that amount of fluid, I'm surprised you're not seeing drips under the car.
Having said that, if a seal is faulty then the fluid will leak when under pressure, i.e. Clutch operation, which would see most of the fluid disappear while on the move.
If you pump the clutch for 5-10 minutes, you should see some drips from somewhere, don't run the engine as if you've got any sort of oil leak this might confuse matters.

If you remove the N/S wheel you can just about see the slave cylinder, on top of the gearbox. Certainly enough to wipe with a old cloth and see if the leak is from there.
Master cylinder is behind the engine and above the sub-frame.
 
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