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Question 1.9 jtd Alternator. clutch type pulley or not?

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Yet another pulley failure !..... How many can there be???
This time apparently it's the alternator bearings gone?

Can anyone tell me if the alternator needs a clutch type pulley or normal fixed pulley? as the difference in price seems to be up to 100 !
It's a 10 year old 1.9 JTD multipla 'with aircon',

I read 'cooky257's post on replacing alternator:
fiatforum.com/multipla/229971-replacing-alternator-jtd-115-a.html

Very helpful for telling garage what I need, but now they ask the pulley question...?

The best quotes i have had so far are from 'Warwick Car & Commercial Spares'. :
re-cons
with normal pulley 127.50 +vat
with clutch type pulley 204.50 +vat


Re-con from local dealer: 261.60 inc. part number: 71721106

Just need to know which one to go for....any clues??
Many thanks
Steve.

P.S. can anyone post a multipla pulley diagram so I can idntify them myself?
I was sure the pulley which looked out of line was the tensioner NOT the alternator?
see photo
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Re: 1.9 jtd Alternator. clutch type pulley or not?

I think I have possibly burnt my Altinator out and had to get recovered by the AA this morning. He kindly gave me a leaflet for " Rotating Electrics in Great Yarmouth Norfolk" although its not local for you he quoted me between 30 and 50 pounds to recon my Altinator.....bargain. Might be worth using a courier.
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Re: 1.9 jtd Alternator. clutch type pulley or not?

Good plan Grapelli !
Sounds a hell of a lot better than 204.50 +vat !
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Re: 1.9 jtd Alternator. clutch type pulley or not?

Hi Steve

I was in a similar position to you before Christmas. Our alternator packed up, and after a lot of ringing about, I found an alternator, with clutch pulley for 122 inc VAT and postage, which is a damn sight better than the prices you've got, but not as good as a direct recon from Yarmouth. The company was West Lancs Auto Electrics, which are based in Preston. (01772 804145) I got the alternator next day, and all they wanted was the old one back.

My Multi is a 54 plate JTD 115 bhp with air con.

I hope this helps.

Cheers

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Re: 1.9 jtd Alternator. clutch type pulley or not?

Thanks James.
Every bit of info helps!
Thanks again...... Looking for someone local (Warwick) to do recon at mo'
cheers
Steve.

Just found a better quote, similar to yours james;
99 +vat . 20 deposit. refunded when bring old one back.
Startermotor alternator centre, coventry.
02476717444
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Re: 1.9 jtd Alternator. clutch type pulley or not?

Cheers guys, Still trying to motivate myself to get out there and take it off....too bloody cold.
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Re: 1.9 jtd Alternator. clutch type pulley or not?

Glad to help, we're all here to collectively help. That quote you've got is good, just beware the removal of the old one. I decided not to do it myself, and paid a couple of mechanics 80 which was a good price, especially as it took them from 9:30 to 5:30 to do it. THey told me that there were a lot of seized bolts?!? and that they had to remove the driveshaft and lower ball joint in order to squeeze the alternator out and the new one in.

I would recommend finding someone similar. I'm all for saving money, but I'm so glad I put my short arms into my deep pockets.

Best of luck.
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Re: 1.9 jtd Alternator. clutch type pulley or not?

Quote Originally Posted by steverich View Post
Hi.
Yet another pulley failure !..... How many can there be???
This time apparently it's the alternator bearings gone?

Can anyone tell me if the alternator needs a clutch type pulley or normal fixed pulley? as the difference in price seems to be up to 100 !
It's a 10 year old 1.9 JTD multipla 'with aircon',

I read 'cooky257's post on replacing alternator:
fiatforum.com/multipla/229971-replacing-alternator-jtd-115-a.html

Very helpful for telling garage what I need, but now they ask the pulley question...?

The best quotes i have had so far are from 'Warwick Car & Commercial Spares'. :
re-cons
with normal pulley 127.50 +vat
with clutch type pulley 204.50 +vat


Re-con from local dealer: 261.60 inc. part number: 71721106

Just need to know which one to go for....any clues??
Many thanks
Steve.

P.S. can anyone post a multipla pulley diagram so I can idntify them myself?
I was sure the pulley which looked out of line was the tensioner NOT the alternator?
see photo
Hi its Cooky257,
Thanks for reading my old post,what I didn't say was that this was the second replacement alternator I fitted. The first was a 100amp 'non clutch' very shiny one off ebay,looked fine,Didn't last long.
In the end got proper clutch type part from dealers much better and a cracking price.
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Re: 1.9 jtd Alternator. clutch type pulley or not?

Quote Originally Posted by steverich View Post
Hi.
Yet another pulley failure !..... How many can there be???
This time apparently it's the alternator bearings gone?

Can anyone tell me if the alternator needs a clutch type pulley or normal fixed pulley? as the difference in price seems to be up to 100 !
It's a 10 year old 1.9 JTD multipla 'with aircon',

I read 'cooky257's post on replacing alternator:
fiatforum.com/multipla/229971-replacing-alternator-jtd-115-a.html

Very helpful for telling garage what I need, but now they ask the pulley question...?

The best quotes i have had so far are from 'Warwick Car & Commercial Spares'. :
re-cons
with normal pulley 127.50 +vat
with clutch type pulley 204.50 +vat


Re-con from local dealer: 261.60 inc. part number: 71721106

Just need to know which one to go for....any clues??
Many thanks
Steve.

P.S. can anyone post a multipla pulley diagram so I can idntify them myself?
I was sure the pulley which looked out of line was the tensioner NOT the alternator?
see photo

Hi cooky257 again, here is another old post of mine that might be useful
Changing an auxilary belt. JTD 115 AC

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Recently I have had to change my auxilary belt, quite an easy job. Here's how.
Buy the correct size belt, motor factors will probably supply you with the 'right' belt being 1830mm in length, this does fit but is very tight, Fiat eper lists the belt length as 1836mm, so ask your local motor factor for a belt between 1836 and 1842, I got one at 1838 for about 13 or go to the dealer and pay 35-40.
Firstly jack up the car or put it on ramps. Remove the plastic pulley cover from underneath,its held on with 3, 10mm bolts and a plastic trim clip.
This will expose all the lower pulleys.
Make a sketch of the belt route around the pulleys.
In the centre of the auto tensioner(small black wheel) is a nut. Use a socket and long wrench on this,turning anti clockwise towards the front of the car,it will turn at least a quarter of a turn.
This will release the tension on the belt, remove it.
Whilst it is off check the pulleys for wear, It is wise to replace the tensioner(easy job 25) a single bolt holds it on, and also the plastic jockey wheel(easy,10).Sadly on mine there is play in the alternator bearings causing a turbo whirring sort of noise.Sorted now,I will do another post on it.
Anyway, thread the new belt around the pulleys,use the socket wrench to release the tension on the tensioner and slip the belt back on completely,check it is on all wheels properly.Replace cover,job done. Once you have done it once its easy a second time
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Re: 1.9 jtd Alternator. clutch type pulley or not?

Hey cooky257.

Thanks for your posts!

Just dropped off 'brand new' alternator at garage to be fitted.
got it for 120 +vat through "Startermotor alternator centre", coventry.
02476717444
As my old one was completely shafted! and they couldn't re-con it. the pulley was a MESS! they couldn't even get it off it was so mashed...
Waiting for the 'stupid' garage fees now :O/
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Re: 1.9 jtd Alternator. clutch type pulley or not?

Just finished replacing mine, also had to have a new one and it was a pig of a job to change. 153 all in and its a Bosch.
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Re: 1.9 jtd Alternator. clutch type pulley or not?

Ok.
The saga ends.
Final outcome:
Turns out it WAS a clutch type pulley!

Alternator :
144 inc. sourced as above (Brand new)

fitting:
99.97 inc. ... should have been more but I complained about the time taken to fix.... ordering wrong stuff etc...

Total cost: 243.97
Plus a LOT of running around!

and the moral of this tale...... I have no idea if there even is a moral ??!!
I guess If you are willing to shop around you can cut costs .....
this time I guess I saved about 100.

Just glad to have the car back........ Although now the brakes need replacing !!!
Oh well .....here we go again.
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