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Old 30-06-2009   #16
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Re: EGR Heaven and Hell

Yes i think the allen key ones are pants! one of mine was not even formed properly so virtually rounded from the off.
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Yes i think the allen key ones are pants! one of mine was not even formed properly so virtually rounded from the off.
Got a set of drop links coming to me as we speak, from an ebay seller. 17 quid for both sides inc postage, so will detail my battles with seized nuts shortly. Not sure if mine are Allen or the others. Hoping the latter...
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Old 02-07-2009   #18
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Sounds like the ones i bought off the bay, if your car has the proper fiat ones on you will notice the ball joints on them are a lot smaller on the ebay ones.
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Looking forward to rattle free urban driving. Most of the rest of the front suspension looks like it has been replaced by the previous owner (wishbones, springs, anti roll bar) so here's hoping!
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On a seperate note , i can clear the bollards at the end of your road Eddie when there is only 2 in the car.
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On a seperate note , i can clear the bollards at the end of your road Eddie when there is only 2 in the car.
That's livin on the edge JTDman! I haven't got the guts to try the bollards of death.

It's a small world is it not, especially when you drive a car that looks like an Amazonian Tree Frog!

Going off topic once more, currently trying to un-seize my spare wheel carrier. Any ideas?
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There has been posts on here about it saying the gear inside seizes or maybe wears as i think its made from plastic so dont overtighten it or you may get stuck.
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Well and truly stuck I'm afraid. Think I'll have to somehow free the tyre from the carrier and stick it in the boot. the nut is just spinning freely. Me thinks the plastic helical screw thingy has chewed itself up, due to the release cable rusting fast. What where they thinking when they designed that?!!!! It seems the wackiness didn't stop with the styling of the car. Mind you I've got history with wacky cars having owned two hydraulic suspension Citroens in the past... St
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Hi Multieddie,

Did your EGR fun ever seem to be temperature related?

I get coughing and spluttering and a total loss of accellerative power when the car gets hot (i.e. big traffic jam, or entering a city after a long drive). I live in Kent & have done return trips in the last month to Gloucester, Preston & Edinburgh. The car is fine for hundreds of miles, until 3 or 4 bars in the temperature display comes up for a long time - then the fun begins.

This is an unhappy situation on the run up to the family holiday in Cornwall in August. Hot weather, 6 up, trailer, roofboot. The car won't make it.

I might have to resort to my hydraulic Citroen (1979 CX Familiale c-matic)! Although the prospect of a 25mpg thirst scares me. What Cits did you have?


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Ooh! Cx. Nice, had two of them. Not Familiale's though.
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I had a 1987 BX petrol (1.4 I think) which I drove down to the Loire Valley one very hot summer. Magic carpet ride and unique looks. Was written off by BMW driver who ran into the back of me while stationary at the lights - a little alarming.

I also had a metallic green GSA (V reg I think) which was a restoration project that never really made it. A baby CX in many respects. Flat four engine, hydraulic suspension and inboard disc brakes. Utterly insane piece of engineering and the looks of a Tiger Shark!

Meanwhile, back to the future and the Multipla EGR... No, I didn't find any link between temperature and sudden power loss - it was just crap all the time until I cleaned out the valve!

Sorry I couldn't help more.
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I had my EGR cleaned out today.

Mine is a 7 year old 115 JTD ELX, 43k. Pretty sure it's never been cleaned out before; the mechanic doubted it, too.

Anyway, there was a lot of soot in there, apparently. The car feels transformed. The turbo picks up nice and cleanly and pulls much more evenly now.

All in all, 50 quid very well spent. Re-map next...

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Re: EGR Heaven and Hell

Got around to having a go at my EGR over the weekend as well. The engine in my car is a replacement (previous owner had it fitted) so I think it's done 47k, though it's quite possible the EGR came from the original engine, in which case it's done more like 108k.

Judging by the amount of soot, it had never been cleaned.



I was surprised just how 'dry' the soot was. Not a horrible solid lump like I was expecting but a very fine powder that was very easy to remove. Five minutes and some Wynns brake cleaner had it looking like this:



Getting it off the car (as has been noted above) was the work of satan however. Talk about inaccessible. I took heed of the advice and got my self a set of Halfords Pro ratchet spanners. Their fine tooth ratchet and flexible head made life a whole lot easier. They're also very nicely made and better still are half price at the moment! Highly recommended. The spanners and decent long and short reach 6mm allen keys were all that I needed, along with an old toothbrush to clean the egr out. Start to finish took a shade over two hours, inlcuding allowing the brake cleaner to dry out before I refitted the EGR.

I can't say it transformed the car (you can see that there's a hole in the soot in the 'before' picture, so I think it was probably still functioning), but pick up seems cleaner. I still haven't got the low-down diesel urge I'm after. Let us all know what the remap is like, Hedgeperson!
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Re: EGR Heaven and Hell

Re-map done, drove this eve.

It's cool, feels nice. Much more pull in 2nd and upwards, spins up earlier and goes through most of the rev range, seems.

I'm using it to trailer to Spa this weekend so I'll update after; that should be a more thorough test than the short route I tried tonight.

Oh and the fuel economy seemed to improve! What with an EGR clean and now this re-map just this week, my car certainly feels more urgent/ smoother.

Sound enough guys, the Angel crew.

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Sounds good. Does it feel like you've gained any low end torque?

Can I ask what you're taking to Spa?
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