Technical diesel particulate filters

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Can anyone advise me if the filter on an 06 model is supposed to be self cleaning or is it a service replacement item.
My sister in law had her car serviced at Arnold Clark the car came back with a warning light for filter clogged. They claimed to have chnaged the filter and so had no idea why the light should be on. They then said that they would clean it - the light came on again the following day.
It sounds to me that she is being spun a yarn - wait till they meet her husband, he's bigger than me, hopefully armed with your expert knowledge !

Thanks
 
Can anyone advise me if the filter on an 06 model is supposed to be self cleaning or is it a service replacement item.
My sister in law had her car serviced at Arnold Clark the car came back with a warning light for filter clogged. They claimed to have chnaged the filter and so had no idea why the light should be on. They then said that they would clean it - the light came on again the following day.
It sounds to me that she is being spun a yarn - wait till they meet her husband, he's bigger than me, hopefully armed with your expert knowledge !

Thanks

We had the same problem with our 06 Multipla and it was covered under the Fiat warranty as should all 06 plate Multipla's be.Our local Fiat dealer purged and cleaned the system.It is a mechanical filter and I am sure it is not anything to do with the service.
 
Can anyone advise me if the filter on an 06 model is supposed to be self cleaning or is it a service replacement item.
My sister in law had her car serviced at Arnold Clark the car came back with a warning light for filter clogged. They claimed to have chnaged the filter and so had no idea why the light should be on. They then said that they would clean it - the light came on again the following day.
It sounds to me that she is being spun a yarn - wait till they meet her husband, he's bigger than me, hopefully armed with your expert knowledge !

Thanks

Software update for this on multipla however this os only to be carried out after a series of tests.This may take a while so leave the car for a full day if you can,this will cure your problem:)

Are you sure your not talking about the oil filter? the DPF unless damaged in some way wont need changing for many a year.

Until then can comment on your question completely.

Not sure what you mean by "wait till they meet her husband, he's bigger than me"...any threatening behavoir (if that is what you are meaning?) towards any member of staff at any establishment will result in the police being called.
 
Software update for this on multipla however this os only to be carried out after a series of tests.This may take a while so leave the car for a full day if you can,this will cure your problem:)

Are you sure your not talking about the oil filter? the DPF unless damaged in some way wont need changing for many a year.

Until then can comment on your question completely.

Not sure what you mean by "wait till they meet her husband, he's bigger than me"...any threatening behavoir (if that is what you are meaning?) towards any member of staff at any establishment will result in the police being called.

That's a touch po-face isn't it? Seems to me the original poster was making the general point that service staff sometimes patronise their female customers, and are (perhaps) more likely to listen to a man. After all, this is the motor trade we're talking about..................
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How is it? Modern garages (obviously not all) are more 'geared' (sorry bout the pun) towards female customers as they are more likely to take the car to a garage during normal working hours.There are even websites that women can use with advice & garages that are good to use for female drivers like this one;

http://www.foxyladydrivers.com/index.php

A good garage will clearly explain work done/work required & support this by showing the customer or supplying documentation.

Also note I said "towards any member of staff at any establishment" which applies not only towards the motor trade but to all businesses.Also note I gave the original poster the information they requested to be 'armed' with so they can resolve their situation.

What is the point in 'fobbing' someone off...they will only come back to complain & not return to the garage in future.....garage loses out as a result.

The motor trade has moved on somewhat in recent years due to public & goverment pressure & more the good for it.
 
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What is the point in 'fobbing' someone off...they will only come back to complain & not return to the garage in future.....garage loses out as a result.

The motor trade has moved on somewhat in recent years![/quote]

Granted, but old habits die hard; some parts of the motor trade have moved further than others. Obviously, `Macho Man' tearing in to teach the staff a thing or two is a bad idea, but like I said, the guys comment seemed to be said in jest. No need to take it too literally :bang: :bang: :bang:
 
I take it you dont have to put up with behavoir like that nearly everyday because unfortunally I do.....& i'm not refereing to the original poster here infact sometimes the garage trade can do with a 'kick up the backside' but I think its fair to say not every garage can 'keep on top' of all the latest information infact I only found out about the DPF software update a few weeks ago while trying to cure a similar problem.

Its quite possible that the garage didn't have time to rectify the fault (whatever it was/is) so possibly 'buying time' or whatever due to a constant heany workload that is placed on a garage everyday.

I'm certainly all for more 'customer satisfaction' than profit but corperate managers might not see it that way?
 
I take it you dont have to put up with behavoir like that nearly everyday because unfortunally I do.....& i'm not refereing to the original poster here infact sometimes the garage trade can do with a 'kick up the backside' but I think its fair to say not every garage can 'keep on top' of all the latest information infact I only found out about the DPF software update a few weeks ago while trying to cure a similar problem.

Its quite possible that the garage didn't have time to rectify the fault (whatever it was/is) so possibly 'buying time' or whatever due to a constant heany workload that is placed on a garage everyday.

I'm certainly all for more 'customer satisfaction' than profit but corperate managers might not see it that way?



Not sure what you mean; are you saying that nearly every day you get customers threatening violence:eek: ? Hmmmmm. Cause or cure. Which can do I reach for, underarm deodorant or Mace......

Fair point about software upgrades; anyone who uses a home computer (by definition, this means everyone on this forum) knows software upgrades can sometimes be more pain than pleasure. The problem is that a lot of car owners now regard a car simply as "a thing that does something". Your washing machine washes your clothes, your microwave cooks your food, your tv entertains you and your car gets you from A to B. With a lot of modern cars, the most information you get from the owners manual is how to check fluid levels and tire pressures. People turn on the ignition, watch the dashboard as various things light up then go off and thats it. No knowledge of what's going on in the engine bay; not interested............ So when something lights up in red saying STOP, they expect the garage to fix it.

I think maybe a bit of techno fear/incomprehension plays its part. Everyone `knows' that error messages on computer screens don't always mean what they say, but when "Oil level low, stop engine NOW" keeps flashing on their cars dashboard, it kind of bothers them. They don't even know what a dipstick is, let alone how to use one:D . They take the car to the garage, the garage does a diagnostic check, everything comes up ok but they change the oil, filter and just to be on the safe side, they fit a new level sensor. Then they lighten the customers wallet by a couple of hundred quid (fair enough, nobody works for free); job done. Except that due to an intermittent fault somewhere, next week the lights back on again.:bang: Who'se to blame? Probably the manufacturer.........

Short story. Citroen lost a fortune with the XM; their flagship model of the 1980's. Why? Because they subcontracted the wiring loom to an outside contractor who, without telling anyone, decided to save a few £ by using a lighter wire guage. Series 1 cars were plagued by electronic glitches. With brakes, steering and suspension all dependent on the same high pressure hydraulic system, when the big red light yelling STOP came on, people did. It was no good telling someone who'd paid up-wards of £15k that it was just an earth fault somewhere in the wiring loom, Mr. Company Director wanted the warning light on his shinny new status symbol V6 3 litre 24 valve supercar to go off and stay off. Warranty recalls cost the company millions and they damn near folded. You can go into a Citroen dealer now and see dozens of matchbox size toys covering everything from the Traction Avant to the C5. But they don't have a model of the XM. It was a beautiful design ruined in production............ As a former XM owner, I've often thought their `Alive With Technology' advertisement for the latest Citroen's is perhaps ill chosen for the U.K. market:D
 
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The DPF on my 06 Multipla needed replacing under Warranty after just 11 months and 18,000 miles. The fault (the engine management warning message appeared) seemed to occur just a few hundred yards down the road after filling up with Diesel in a fuel tank that had only about 5 litres left in it so i guess that it might have picked up a bit of crap from the bottom of the tank. I have read on the AA website that heavy stop/start traffic conditions will shorten the life of your DPF considerably which is a bit alarming as my average speed on the daily commute is 12mph.
So i suppose the only solutions are to not let your fuel tank run too low and to give up working in a large town or city and retire to the open roads of the countryside( i wish !!)
 
Stop-start traffic is not likely to shorten the life of the DPF to the point of you will be changing it regularly, however, it will produce more soot and therefore the calibration will need to regenerate the DPF sooner than someone that drives a motorway cycle all the time. On the motorway the DPF will passive regen (clean itself) with the extra heat produced. Just give the car a good run every now and again.
 
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