Panda 2012+ Panda 85 Lounge 403 Turquiose.

Another Italian wheel i like is the MAK Torino W, in mat black finish.
it is a bid in line with Panda/Abarth wheels design wise.
Specs, 7x17", ET35, 4x98, 58.1mm

https://www.tyreleader.co.uk/alloy-wheels/mak/torino-1256/
Click on the site on the wheel picture and it turns.

Because i have perfect 195/45R16" summer tires i could consider the 16" version.
For some reason i think, 16" looks better in proportion to the Panda.
It even looks like that the mat black version is only available as 6.5x16" ET35, 4x98, 58.1, version, and not as 7x17" mat black.

I'm back on the Barchetta's again, drives and looks much better then the 14".
The 175/65R14's look a little lost under the car IMHO.
With the Barchetta's it looks a lot beefier.

I'm probably going to consider a set of wheels come summer, but for now the stock wheels are taking the winter beating. I might make the move to a larger width and diameter because the Michelin CrossClimates I want aren't sold in the stock size here, but then I'm already a little weary from the road noise and less profile will only make it worse.

Still experimenting with wheels 195/45R16" tires are to small for a 7J wheel IMHO.
So next-up will be most likely 205/45R16" winter tires on my 7x16" ET 31 black steel wheels.
Based on calculations it should fit the Panda without problems.
The Diameter and Circumference will be smaller then the 195/55R15" tires i have on now.
Wheel will use more or less the same space as before.

Create a quick Photoshop of how a black MAK Torino would look in 6.5x16".

That actually looks pretty awesome. You might just sway my mind on the whole "black" thing yet...

I will most likely first put on the 195/45R16" tires i have.
Then i will see if there is space enough on the inside to run 205/45R16" tires in the future, when i need new tires.
205/45R16' tires on 6.5x16" wheel give a much better rim protection.

The black MAK Torino 6.5x16" wheels will not happen.
The wheels will stand 10mm+ less wide under the car and 205 tires will most likely not fit and would most certain rub on the inside.
I would also loose stance this way.
So for this coming summer there will not be any changes in the wheel department, black 7.0x16" ET31 steelies will be back on in due time.
Future plan would most likely be 205 tire instead of 195's.

Further plan is a remap to 100+ hp instead of playing around with wheels.

Did a quick Photoshop with 6.5x16" Fiat 500 Facelift wheels.
Not that i plan these wheels, because they would have the same effect as the MAK Torino wheels.
The center cap would be changed to a Panda logo or i would choose "by Abarth" black centre caps.

To each their own, but I'm not a fan of so many spokes.

oyumurtaci said:

To each their own, but I'm not a fan of so many spokes.

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Yes, they will be a bitch to clean.

Not a fan of all those spokes either, too fussy, which is funny seeing I love wire wheels. I'm also not a fan of Abarth logos on non-Abarth vehicles.

aussiepanda said:

Not a fan of all those spokes either, too fussy, which is funny seeing I love wire wheels. I'm also not a fan of Abarth logos on non-Abarth vehicles.

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There are no Fiat logo caps for Fiat 500 wheels, only 500 logo and (by)Abarth logo caps for Fiat 500 wheels.
The Abarth logo is the better choice for a non 500 Fiat IMHO.

Remap will most likely be done by Savali, resulting in 102 hp - 172 Nm.
In combination with WMI it will result in 120 hp and 182 Nm.

The Pretender said:

There are no Fiat logo caps for Fiat 500 wheels, only 500 logo and (by)Abarth logo caps for Fiat 500 wheels.
The Abarth logo is the better choice for a non 500 Fiat IMHO.

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I feared that, having made a few queries myself. Makes it hard doesn't it. Someone on here has an avatar that says Panda with a pawprint that'd make a good centre cap though you'd have to have it made for you (I don't even know if that's possible). There's a similar problem with body stripes and logos - the factory seems to treat the Panda like a girly's car

You're right though, putting a 500 cap on it is just wrong so from that point of view, the Abarth logo is indeed a good choice.

The Pretender said:

Remap will most likely be done by Savali, resulting in 102 hp - 172 Nm.
In combination with WMI it will result in 120 hp and 182 Nm.

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Keep us posted on that. What effect will this likely have on the bottom end torque?

aussiepanda said:

Keep us posted on that. What effect will this likely have on the bottom end torque?

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Here the diagram based on the newer 80 hp TwinAir, the 85 hp will have mostly the same numbers.

Makes quite a difference doesn't it, and with the handling changes you've made, she'll become a real sleeper. Got some nice, twisty roads available?

aussiepanda said:

Makes quite a difference doesn't it, and with the handling changes you've made, she'll become a real sleeper. Got some nice, twisty roads available?

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Yes, twisty's enough.
I'm even looking at the possibility to adjust Fiat 500 KW Coil-overs for the use on the Panda, to drop it even more.