Panda Wrightyy's 100hp Panda

Gavv8 · May 4, 2015

It looks great lowered and I'd love to put coilovers on mine but I just don't think it would survive west country roads.

fpan · May 4, 2015

It looks good but you must have very flat, smooth roads to be able to drive a car so low. If you raise it you may notice the handling improving.

wrightyy · May 6, 2015

fpan said:
It looks good but you must have very flat, smooth roads to be able to drive a car so low. If you raise it you may notice the handling improving.

Thanks for your concern (again) fpan but I drove 430 miles over the weekend on various different types of roads and have no problems.

Handling wise I'd say it's improved slightly since fitting the coilovers. Less body roll and a lower centre of gravity. I don't drive that hard for these to be hugely noticeable though

fpan · May 6, 2015

You are welcome, I've only tried to share my experience as suspension is my passion and I have tried many setups in my cars over the years only to find out that lower is not always better, there is a limit to how much a car can be lowered.

The misconception is that a lower centre of gravity reduces roll but often the opposite happens due to the roll centre being upset.

Is there a roll centre correction kit for the Panda?

http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric-off-road/703926-understanding-tuning-roll-center.html

Reuuk · May 6, 2015

your Panda looked really good at brooklands mate, glad you won that FB award thing.

Gavv8 · May 6, 2015

fpan said:
You are welcome, I've only tried to share my experience as suspension is my passion and I have tried many setups in my cars over the years only to find out that lower is not always better, there is a limit to how much a car can be lowered.

The misconception is that a lower centre of gravity reduces roll but often the opposite happens due to the roll centre being upset.

Is there a roll centre correction kit for the Panda?

http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric-off-road/703926-understanding-tuning-roll-center.html

I can't think of a single instance where a lower centre of gravity wouldn't improve body roll.

fpan · May 6, 2015

Gavv8 said:
I can't think of a single instance where a lower centre of gravity wouldn't improve body roll.

As long as the roll centre stays above the ground, lowering a car will generally reduce roll that's why most cars respond well to moderate lowering (~2cm or so).

When the roll centre goes below the ground (which is usually what happens when a car is lowered more than 2cm or so) body roll will increase.

The problem is exaggerated as most aftermarket springs are too soft for the amount of lowering they provide.

Gavv8 · May 7, 2015

fpan said:
As long as the roll centre stays above the ground, lowering a car will generally reduce roll that's why most cars respond well to moderate lowering (~2cm or so).

When the roll centre goes below the ground (which is usually what happens when a car is lowered more than 2cm or so) body roll will increase.

The problem is exaggerated as most aftermarket springs are too soft for the amount of lowering they provide.

A shorter/stiffer spring and harder shock absorber can only ever reduce body roll regardless of the roll centre... I would agree that this doesn't make a car handle properly and can often ruin the handling but it will always roll less.

wrightyy · May 7, 2015

It definitely rolls less since the coilovers have been fitted.
If my centre of gravity has gone up, down or below ground the coilovers will be staying on

:thumbup:

wrightyy · May 7, 2015

Reuuk said:
your Panda looked really good at brooklands mate, glad you won that FB award thing.

Thanks Reuuk!

It sort of shows that all the time, money and effort has been worth it.
Just need to decide whats next now

fpan · May 7, 2015

Gavv8 said:
A shorter/stiffer spring and harder shock absorber can only ever reduce body roll regardless of the roll centre... I would agree that this doesn't make a car handle properly and can often ruin the handling but it will always roll less.

No, the roll centre is one of the variables that affects body roll, in fact it's the distance between the COG and RC.

For anyone interested in some reading: http://www.billzilla.org/suspensn.htm#roll centre

wrightyy, it may roll less because you are sitting on the bumpstops

Reuuk · May 7, 2015

wrightyy said:
Thanks Reuuk! It sort of shows that all the time, money and effort has been worth it.
Just need to decide whats next now

Some alloys ?

wrightyy · May 7, 2015

Reuuk said:
Some alloys ?

I have thought about a change of wheels, even bought some a few weeks ago! But I really like the standard alloys for some reason

wrightyy · May 9, 2015

I love owning the 100hp Panda because of the rarity of them. I've hardly ever seen them on the roads

Me and jatkinson counted 7 red Alfa Romeo 4Cs at Brooklands last weekend compared to only 1 red 100hp Panda

wrightyy · May 24, 2015

A couple of pictures from our YorkshireITALIA meet last weekend

wrightyy · May 30, 2015

For everyone in the Panda section who hasn't seen my Panda alloy wheel clock I recently made, some photos

100hp Panda alloy wheel cut in half

Painted

Red wheel bolts

Fiat badge and clock mechanism fitted

:woot:

Wrightyy

gadge · May 30, 2015

That looks awesome bud

great use of a duff wheel (I take it, it was duff?? Lol)

fpan · May 30, 2015

I like that, what is the colour you used for painting?

wrightyy · May 30, 2015

gadge said:
That looks awesome bud great use of a duff wheel (I take it, it was duff?? Lol)

Thanks gadge

Yes it had a nice bend on the inside edge!

fpan said:
I like that, what is the colour you used for painting?

I dont know the exact colour code but its very similar to the original paint. I asked the bodyshop to use the closest colour they had

Gavv8 · May 31, 2015

Such a great looking 100hp and your right about the rarity, I was chatting to a neighbour of mine who was chuffed that he'd only seen two other golf edition 30's that week.. he stopped smiling when I said I hadn't seen another 100hp in the flesh this side of Christmas

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