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Old 12-10-2014   #16
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Cheers David, yes when we went to look at it something seemed right about it. I was really pleased when I got the second chance offer
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Got Digger on the ramp this afternoon and had a poke around:









Not looking that great, but it could be alot worse and was pretty much what I was expecting. I was able to lift him up on the ramp without too much difficulty so there is some solid metal there. Hes going to need both sills replacing and the rear axle and springs will have to come out aswell as there is a hole on the chassis rail above the front spring mount on the N/S. The rest isn't too bad, although I'm yet to remove the arch liners so we'll see how it is under those, bound to be a few smaller repairs required.

I did manage to pull off a previous sill repair with my hands, the patch itself was still fairly solid, just the original metal around it had rotted


I was hoping I would get away without buying any panels, but I am going to have to remove the bottom of the rear quarter and arch to sort the rot properly so I'll be sourcing some sills and doing a complete replacement on both sides like I did with the mk1s passenger side.
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Good news overall, I'd say.

Axle off is easy and quick if the front bolts aren't seized. And only a cut and the sourcing of a replacement bolt longer if not.

Good to see quick progress and I still like the colour alot.
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So some progress on Digger over the weekend. I've stripped the wheel arch liners and bumpers off aswell as the interior to give me proper access to the rusty bits. (Sorry for the photo quality, taken with a tablet in poor lighting so not the best)



The sills are as expected:




But it turns out the boot floor is mostly made of filler and some badly attached patches All fixable of course and could be alot worse It also means I will have good acess to repair the hole in the chassis rail from above, which is no bad thing:




There is a hole right in the middle of the front floor under the passenger side seat, a funny place for it to go rotten I thought



I've also got a broken leaf spring on the N/S, explains the lean to the left hand side. Another common 4x4 problem it seems.

Did manage to find a company that could supply sill panels (http://carz2.co.uk/), however I was looking at a 4 week wait for them as I had just missed the cut off for the latest shipment, I then remembered John @Dragon Man had bought some for his blue Sisley but never used them, he was more than happy for me to have them, so I took a trip over the Derby last week to pick them up. John has many sheds full of Panda bits so there is no doubt I will back over there for more parts once I work out what I need!

I'm hoping I will be able to make a start on the metalwork repairs this weekend, I will be doing the sills first, I will then have somewhere solid to support the car whilst I remove the axle to sort out the back end.
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I'm a bit late to the party, but looking like a good project Freddy
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Last weekend I was able to put Digger up on my ramps and today I cut the passenger side sill off. If you don't like rust, look away now!




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Hi Freddy, there is a lot of work here, fair play to you for taking 'Digger' on. I don't envy your work to get the sills sorted. I'm looking forward to seeing the finished article. I hope you keep it in the yellow, it suits it.
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I really do take my hat off to you and your awesome fabricating and repair skills Freddy
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I love rust pictures How far up the inner sill are you going to cut it off? or are you going to try and replace it completely
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Reminds me of my 1980's classic mini the amount of rust you have there lol. Good luck with the restoration
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I love rust pictures How far up the inner sill are you going to cut it off? or are you going to try and replace it completely
You rust slut Kris!

Now in terms of a solution i'm just going to leave this lying around for you...

https://cdn.mediacru.sh/13j7mkoQqYx0.jpe

Something like 120x60 hollow section. Pretty popular mod in other monocoque chassis 4x4s
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Hi Freddy, there is a lot of work here, fair play to you for taking 'Digger' on. I don't envy your work to get the sills sorted. I'm looking forward to seeing the finished article. I hope you keep it in the yellow, it suits it.
Thanks Owain, I will be honest, it is more work than I wanted to take on at the moment but now I've started I will get it done. At least once its done I'll have a very solid car that will last a long time before needing further structural work and really, most other rough 4x4s will need similar work anyway.

The yellow will be staying, although the sills may end up another colour if I cant find an ok match to the rest of the car.

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I really do take my hat off to you and your awesome fabricating and repair skills Freddy
Thanks Jon, although my fabircating is still pretty crude compared to some people, have a look at this thread if you want to know what I mean:

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I love rust pictures How far up the inner sill are you going to cut it off? or are you going to try and replace it completely
I'm not sure at the moment, the inside of the inner sill has quite abit of surface rust so I will need to clean that up before deciding what to do. Ideally I will just cut the bottom off, leaving the curved section in place, but I will have to see what its like once its cleaned up.

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Reminds me of my 1980's classic mini the amount of rust you have there lol. Good luck with the restoration
Yes I know how badly Minis rot! A Panda has nothing on them! I am currently doing a full nut and bolt rebuild on one that is going to be used as a wedding car. The shell needed some serious work to get it solid!

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You rust slut Kris!

Now in terms of a solution i'm just going to leave this lying around for you...

https://cdn.mediacru.sh/13j7mkoQqYx0.jpe

Something like 120x60 hollow section. Pretty popular mod in other monocoque chassis 4x4s
Already ahead of you there, I have a length of 50x50 box left over from something else which might fit quite nicely
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Looks in a similar condition to mine, glad to see im not the only one.
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Looks in a similar condition to mine, glad to see im not the only one.
Are you planning on doing the welding on your Sisley yourself Cameron?
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Are you planning on doing the welding on your Sisley yourself Cameron?
My dad and I are going to weld it together with him starting it, and showing me how to, and hopefully I will pick it up and do as much as I can myself. Failing that if my dad is too busy then I will have to pay to have it done somewhere. No idea how much that would cost though. Any rough estimations as a matter of interest?
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