Panda Yet another 100HP

So... What's the problem?

gr J

Aston Martin said:

Stupid bloody car.
Just ended up going backwards around a roundabout. I wasnt going fast, but wet roundabout, standing water and maybe because I lifted off.

The guy behind had the cheek to give me a 'slow down' motion.

Anyway, I'm fine the cars fine and no-one else involved.

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Glad to hear that the car and, more importantly, you are both okay .

Which of Hull's delightful roundabouts did this little incident occur on ? Also, what tyres have you got on the back of your 100HP? I've only ever made mine lift-off oversteer once, and I was "making progress" on an empty road in the Peak District, oops :devil:.

Matt100HP said:

Glad to hear that the car and, more importantly, you are both okay .

Which of Hull's delightful roundabouts did this little incident occur on ? Also, what tyres have you got on the back of your 100HP? I've only ever made mine lift-off oversteer once, and I was "making progress" on an empty road in the Peak District, oops :devil:.

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Roundabout outside Hop Pole in Willerby, I have Hankook's which were new last May.


It's not fun to be eye-to-eye with the guy in the car behind you.

I stalled today. (I was in third by accident) anyway the car just said "insufficient engine"

Aston Martin said:

I stalled today. (I was in third by accident) anyway the car just said "insufficient engine"

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Did it actually say that on the little display between the dials haha ?

Matt100HP said:

Did it actually say that on the little display between the dials haha ?

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Yes, it was very weird.

Pics or it didn't happen

gr J

I've had the same message in mine. to replicate it just stall the car at very low revs!

I got my Nexus 6 today, so I bought a CD mount.

Aston Martin said:

I got my Nexus 6 today, so I bought a CD mount.

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Nice unit - would have liked to compare to my Nexus 7 which is going strong after 2.5 years of decent usage.


Screen size not much smaller. Price..........hmmm

Aston Martin said:

Stupid bloody car.
Just ended up going backwards around a roundabout. I wasnt going fast, but wet roundabout, standing water and maybe because I lifted off.

The guy behind had the cheek to give me a 'slow down' motion.

Anyway, I'm fine the cars fine and no-one else involved.

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Wow you must be a crap driver, I've driven mine like a loon and never even come close to losing it...

Gavv8 said:

Wow you must be a crap driver, I've driven mine like a loon and never even come close to losing it...

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Again today, at 15MPH on a wet roundabout and the car thinks it's a 200sx. It didn't spin, but you definitely feel it wanna go.

How old are your tyres and what make are they? What tyre pressures are you using?
With new Uniroyal rainsports, going enthusiastically around a roundabout causes understeer on the wet, lifting off just stops the understeer, this car has no lift-off oversteer unfortunately

Fpan..did you fit 50 profile rainsports? Thinking of fitting them to mine. How do they affect the ride? Do they soften it slightly over poor road surfaces?

While the 100hp may have supreme handling in certain scenarios ( fast sweeping 40-50mph bends?) it is not a fun 'roundabout' car , the 1.1 IS ! ( Its not reassuring at very high speeds either :-( ) It's tracking constantly going out of whack certainly doesn't help . Nor does bad 'heel and toeing' position or jerky brakes ...

My 100HP on Dunlop 195/50 summers loves roundabouts Even on 185/60 Vredestein winters I outperform a lot of others on the roundabouts.
If you experience problems@15 Mph, there must be something seriously wrong.

2.4/2.5 bar F/R are my pressures.

gr J

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Again today, at 15MPH on a wet roundabout and the car thinks it's a 200sx. It didn't spin, but you definitely feel it wanna go.

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In all seriousness that's not normal, I've thrown mine in to roundabouts and bends in the wet and it never felt like it was coming unstuck, you've either got dodgy tyres or something is amiss in the suspension department.

ytareh said:

While the 100hp may have supreme handling in certain scenarios ( fast sweeping 40-50mph bends?) it is not a fun 'roundabout' car , the 1.1 IS ! ( Its not reassuring at very high speeds either :-( ) It's tracking constantly going out of whack certainly doesn't help . Nor does bad 'heel and toeing' position or jerky brakes ...

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I must have a different breed of 100hp to you then as mine feels supremely stable at high speeds, I've also just had the tracking checked for winter and despite the beating it takes every day on rubbish B roads it was spot on.
I have found that using OEM track rod ends and bushes etc helps as some aftermarket suspension parts might as well be made of cheese.

Lucio said:

Fpan..did you fit 50 profile rainsports? Thinking of fitting them to mine. How do they affect the ride? Do they soften it slightly over poor road surfaces?

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Lucio, I stayed with the OEM 45 profile as I love the feel/handling and didn't want to risk spoiling it.

If I buy winter tyres I will either go 195/50/15 or 185/55/15.

ytareh said:

While the 100hp may have supreme handling in certain scenarios ( fast sweeping 40-50mph bends?) it is not a fun 'roundabout' car , the 1.1 IS ! ( Its not reassuring at very high speeds either :-( ) It's tracking constantly going out of whack certainly doesn't help . Nor does bad 'heel and toeing' position or jerky brakes ...

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Mine has as much grip around roundabouts as my previous Forester STi, it is great not having to brake at roundabouts and seeing other cars disappearing in the rear view mirror

The pedals are not positioned for heel and toeing I agree, and the brakes are indeed overassisted and not linear, you "get used to it" but it's something I would like to improve if possible, not sure how.

I prefer to be able to modulate the brakes myself.

Sounds like you need to replace your rear tyres pdq Adam! :idea: