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There have been so many things wrong, they've all been adding up but it was unfortunate I didnt take off the fuel pump from the car. It was just too dark to go underneath the car and roll about in the hay!
Just checked the plugs and theyre bang on a nice brown so dont think its gone the other way and running too rich now. Still needs tuning though.
Going to replace all the manifold gaskets next I think. Ordering suspension things now to bring it down by 40mm too. Exciting times :devil:
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There have been so many things wrong, they've all been adding up but it was unfortunate I didnt take off the fuel pump from the car. It was just too dark to go underneath the car and roll about in the hay!
Just checked the plugs and theyre bang on a nice brown so dont think its gone the other way and running too rich now. Still needs tuning though.
Going to replace all the manifold gaskets next I think. Ordering suspension things now to bring it down by 40mm too. Exciting times :devil:
Si
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Just a question about turbos in general. Do normal turbo cars have dump valves? If not why? Never seen one or heard one on anything other than high performance cars. Defiantly never on a diesel?
Just a question about turbos in general. Do normal turbo cars have dump valves? If not why? Never seen one or heard one on anything other than high performance cars. Defiantly never on a diesel?
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I think all turbo's have a boost pressure release valve. New cars are so well sound insulated its hard to hear these things now. And theyre recirculating ones so they vent back into the turbo rather than to atmosphere. I heard the dump valve go off as a BMW X5overtook me on the bike the other day.
There is probably some more reliable information on the net somewhere, but from what I have found out, its safer for the turbo and helps to keep the turbo spinning reducing turbo lag. Correct me if I am wrong.
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I think all turbo's have a boost pressure release valve. New cars are so well sound insulated its hard to hear these things now. And theyre recirculating ones so they vent back into the turbo rather than to atmosphere. I heard the dump valve go off as a BMW X5overtook me on the bike the other day.
There is probably some more reliable information on the net somewhere, but from what I have found out, its safer for the turbo and helps to keep the turbo spinning reducing turbo lag. Correct me if I am wrong.
Si
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Makes sense to me, we have a few Subaru's round hear and every time they change gear it sounds like an asthmatic cough
Makes sense to me, we have a few Subaru's round hear and every time they change gear it sounds like an asthmatic cough
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Well thats because its "cool" of course! Although there are benifits to venting to atmosphere. Recirculating dump valves send warmed air back into the turbo. The engine can run hotter and lose a bit of power on a hot day. However with these loud ones you lose all boost and have to start spinning up the turbo again. Again as far as i understand!
Makes sense to me, we have a few Subaru's round hear and every time they change gear it sounds like an asthmatic cough
Well thats because its "cool" of course!
Although there are benifits to venting to atmosphere. Recirculating dump valves send warmed air back into the turbo. The engine can run hotter and lose a bit of power on a hot day. However with these loud ones you lose all boost and have to start spinning up the turbo again. Again as far as i understand!
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Next time I see it I shall offer it the use of my inhaler
Next time I see it I shall offer it the use of my inhaler
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Hi everyone,
Been a bit of a quiet spell for a while but today I jumped on the case again having got all the components (I had to bend the U bolts from the Escort lowering kit to fit the smaller diameter axle of the Marbella and then stress releive them. Quite hard to bend an M12 bolt!!).
Anyway, front end still up in the air but she's squatting down nicely at the back (not very lady like):
The lowering block isnt a perfect fit on the spring but fingers crossed it will do the job and not cause anything to break. Need to cut the U bolts shorter though, not that they come near anything but would be tidier!
More pics tomorrow hopefully of the front lowering! :devil:
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Hi everyone,
Been a bit of a quiet spell for a while but today I jumped on the case again having got all the components (I had to bend the U bolts from the Escort lowering kit to fit the smaller diameter axle of the Marbella and then stress releive them. Quite hard to bend an M12 bolt!!).
Anyway, front end still up in the air but she's squatting down nicely at the back (not very lady like
):
The lowering block isnt a perfect fit on the spring but fingers crossed it will do the job and not cause anything to break. Need to cut the U bolts shorter though, not that they come near anything but would be tidier!
More pics tomorrow hopefully of the front lowering! :devil:
Si
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Looking good Si
Looking good Si
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who is that in the garage with all the junk chucked on him?
who is that in the garage with all the junk chucked on him?
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That's his Mk1 4x4.
Car is looking great. Once the front is lowered it should look quite funny. Unfortunately my Uno engine needs rebuilding, so no racing this summer, but perhaps we will see this at a show later this year?
That's his Mk1 4x4.
Car is looking great. Once the front is lowered it should look quite funny. Unfortunately my Uno engine needs rebuilding, so no racing this summer, but perhaps we will see this at a show later this year?
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i thought it might be is it expectable to work on a fake panda an do that to a real mk1, or shall we ban him?
i thought it might be
is it expectable to work on a fake panda an do that to a real mk1, or shall we ban him?
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Accepble I'd say. Easier to get bits for the fake Panda than the mk1 probably
i thought it might be
Accepble I'd say. Easier to get bits for the fake Panda than the mk1 probably
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Haha, yeah! Does look a little funny with the front up in the air. Shame about Chichi sat in the garage but she's much safer in there. Just rotting on the driveway and litterally dissolving in front of my eyes was so depressing. At the moment I am trying to find some mk1 body panels to repair the front A-Panel. Getting there though. Engine is the biggest hurdle, never built one from scratch before Patience Dave, she'll be out again and you can complain how un-original it is then
Shame to hear about your engine Lewey, I guess we were both a bit optimistic in getting them to compete this year as I had quite a bit left to do when I announced it was almost finished before!! I know once I have lowered this car I will have to make sure nothing rubs and I know stuff will!!
Gona get out there and fit the front springs now anyway,
Cheers,
Si
Haha, yeah! Does look a little funny with the front up in the air. Shame about Chichi sat in the garage but she's much safer in there. Just rotting on the driveway and litterally dissolving in front of my eyes was so depressing. At the moment I am trying to find some mk1 body panels to repair the front A-Panel. Getting there though. Engine is the biggest hurdle, never built one from scratch before
Patience Dave, she'll be out again and you can complain how un-original it is then Shame to hear about your engine Lewey, I guess we were both a bit optimistic in getting them to compete this year as I had quite a bit left to do when I announced it was almost finished before!!
I know once I have lowered this car I will have to make sure nothing rubs and I know stuff will!!Gona get out there and fit the front springs now anyway,
Cheers,
Si
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Exactly. 100 times easier to find parts for than a mk1 panda, but still 1000 times harder than a mk2 haha!!
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Accepble I'd say. Easier to get bits for the fake Panda than the mk1 probably
Exactly. 100 times easier to find parts for than a mk1 panda, but still 1000 times harder than a mk2 haha!!
Si
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Ok got a bit carried away with some wheel arch clearancing today but had the lowering springs fitted yesterday. Lowered slightly, not as much as I had thought but a lot stiffer and much more stable in the corners. Overall pleased with the suspension. Bit too soft on the rear still but I have a set of assistor springs that I can use I think.
Ok got a bit carried away with some wheel arch clearancing today but had the lowering springs fitted yesterday. Lowered slightly, not as much as I had thought but a lot stiffer and much more stable in the corners. Overall pleased with the suspension. Bit too soft on the rear still but I have a set of assistor springs that I can use I think.
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Any updates on this beauty? or just enjoying the power it's giving!
Any updates on this beauty? or just enjoying the power it's giving!
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Howd there!! Things are coming together nicely thanks, just tidying up all the lose ends and preparing the car for hill climbs. Carb still needs correct jetting but its in a better position than it was and I have a rough idea what it needs....i hope!
But yes I am enjoying the power, she is suprising lots of people on the motorway as she breezes from 60 to 90mph
More updates when there is a bit more noticeably different!
Si
Howd there!! Things are coming together nicely thanks, just tidying up all the lose ends and preparing the car for hill climbs. Carb still needs correct jetting but its in a better position than it was and I have a rough idea what it needs....i hope!
But yes I am enjoying the power, she is suprising lots of people on the motorway as she breezes from 60 to 90mph
More updates when there is a bit more noticeably different!
Si
