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Old 23-06-2016   #1
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John Dragon Man's Citroen BX Diesel Estate

Well here I am, now an owner of a BX Diesel Estate in Sliver!

so yesterday (the 20th of June 16) i took a trip down to London with a car transporter and picked up this nice little... (umm.. a little more larger than i am use to) estate car!

i am pretty happy with it, the overall cost was 400 for the car and around 350 to get it delivered here to Derby (yes i know i could have got it cheaper now :x ).

bodywork wise the car is a little "used". given what i have seen of London (first time i have been!) i think the car survived well!

the engine is dead. the bottom end may be savable but i think i am going to go down the complete engine swap fix route. i am not sure if it may have damaged anything else bar the head. so that said i am now looking for a low miles XUD engine. be it a 1.7 or 1.9 (ill worry about that camshaft pump pulley further down the line)

the hydraulics are untested. the spheres are dated 2001 so are 15 years old they they need changing but are near the bottom on my list of things to change for obvious reasons. i will try and test the hydraulics by spinning the pump using an electric motor. being as it is cam driven it does not turn very quick even with the pulley ratio. maybe even a battery drill could do it.

the LHM fluid is more of a cloudy yellow/cream colour, i have read that it should be green. so i will change that when the engine is in and connected up.

who wants to see some pictures?

so these are the pictures that the seller sent me:










and these are from yesterday now i have the car at work:



















a slight bit of rust.. but nothing i cant fix..



and now the really bad stuff...



ouch... smashy smashy



i will also be making online video logs. and here is the first:



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YES!!! a bx !!! , are you going to clean this up and keep it clean and get it runing or you going down the panda RRV route
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Re: John Dragon Man's Citroen BX Diesel Estate

this car needs to be clean and tidy.. i want it to be as nice as i can make it. no fallout mods.. well maybe the 1.9 engine over the 1.7.. but that is because its a heavy car in a modern pocket rocket world.

i STILL dont know how to go about fixing the engine.. should i replace the whole engine with the 1.9 XUD unit or just get a new cylinder head for the 1.7 XUD thats in it now? its so hard.. i cant decide.

the car is up now. i lifted the front up with the forklift at work and have it sat up on some old tyres. dont worry its safe!

really dont know what way to go about this.

i also want to replace as much of the original steel piping as possible. i have popped a few hydraulic lines just with the stress of jacking it up! well forking it up... i made sure i was not near any too when i did it! guess they have just corroded that much.

i really cant believe how rust free this car is.. just that one bit on the back pass door arch and one of the boot brackets. its really good!
still i want to get it undersealed at some point but i need to focus on the engine.

if only i could get my hands on a low miles 1.9 TD XUD unit.. sigh...
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Considered perhaps dropping a more modern engine in you could get from the yard... much faffing to make work but possibly result in an epic cruising barge.. And I know you like a good tinker
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agreed. i know i can drive the hydraulics via electric motor like the electric power steering pumps on the saxo's.

a nice modern common rail 2.0L HDI engine would be nice but then its getting it to fit the gearbox.. or fit drive shafts. i can make engine mounts easy enough.

you seen how many pipes are on these cars.. man i have some replacing to do!
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Nice shall watch with interest. How you finding parts availability? Old Citroen's are very cool but I seem to recall PSA only support their cars with spares for 10 years so even things for the later Xantia are hard to come by.
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hmm well so far i have only needed a replacement engine and some new pipework!

trying to get a 1.9 XUD engine is almost impossible though. i have rang up everywhere in derby, notts and lecs but no breakers have the 1905cc XUD engine.

ill just drop the engine and leave it for now i think. i can work on replacing the pipes.
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My memory is a bit sketchy of these, but the Rover 200 series diesel used the Peugeot engine. Most of these are dead now, so might be lucky there, although most breakers probably recognise the engine and sell it as a Peugeot engine.
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Top Buyage Sir!

Head over to Auto****e.com plenty of knowlege of old citroens on there (when the sites working).

I presume you will be running it on used veg oil?
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hmm i may.. i am looking at getting a Peugeot 406 as the early ones came with the XUD engine. theres a few around here that are mot fail cars with under 100k on the clock and they are fetching only 100 to 150 they are worth that for the engine alone! the one i have my eye on has aircon and everything... almost seems a shame to kill the car for its engine :/

the car is also Here on the BX forum.
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So your next challenge, is to transfer over the aircon to the BX as well as the engine.
Did you want transport, or a project?
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the BX already has aircon! but it is an older R12 system. i am kinda hoping that the pump from the newer engine connect strait up to the older pipes. if not i still have the older compressor that.. lets face it could do with a recon. i bet the shaft seals are nothing!

i will have to source a replacement cam shaft as pretty much every other XUD engine does not have the pulley to drive the hydraulic pump. so i will be looking for a cam shaft from out of a 1.9 none turboed BX. as the loves are much higher than any of the other cams. should allow better airflow into the cylinder.
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Wow, that's a rare beast! I can't actually remember the last time I saw a BX! Will definitely follow this with interest.
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