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| Just another nutter | Cagllari HF project (picture heavy) been meaning to do a project thread for ages about this. Ive really enjoyed doing it so far, and it is all coming together now. this is the condition that the bike was in when i aquired it: ![]() ![]() it was in a horrible state, in every way. Most things were broken, and there were plenty bits missing. Complete strip down to the bare frame, before wash: ![]() wire brushed, primered, and several coats of Ford Diamond White later: ![]() I then turned my attention to the engine, which was fully stripped (and half put back together for this pic) ![]() the engine itself was in ok condition, but it was all going to get changed anyway.... on to the plastics, which were mended with fibreglass paste and reinforced with steel mesh, then sprayed Fiat Sprint Blue ( )![]() ![]() the rest of the chassis, including the wheels, brakes, handlebars etc were cleaned or painted, and some "rain tyres" put on (dont tell me that the front tyre is on the wrong way round, i noticed but cba to sort it atm): ![]() more updates to come later today | ||
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| Re: Cagllari HF project (picture heavy) looks like its gona be fun, when you get it finished
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| T.E.D. | Re: Cagllari HF project (picture heavy) Its coming together, even if i cant stand them I have to admit it looks good in the flesh, especially the engine Jordan
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| Just another nutter | Re: Cagllari HF project (picture heavy) right. The project is drawing to an end now so all i need to do is document it properly for any other nerds that might be interested ![]() Other bits of the bike were cleaned up properly, including the brakes. before: ![]() after: ![]() the brakes were then fitted to the bike, with mountain bike levers, and custom cable brackets (the old ones were lost or broken) ![]() ![]() New engine parts time ![]() "big bore" 5 port cylinder with 4 piece billet head, 44mm bore and 17:1 CR: ![]() 15mm Dell'orto replica carburettor with carbon reeds: ![]() 44mm ported piston: ![]() and various other bits, such as gaskets, throttle, pegs, etc. Rebuild time! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Complete engine! ![]() Engine fitted into bike, with all plastics as well: ![]() At this point, there was very little left to do. Chain was fitted, everything was tensioned (used mountain bike wheel tensioners, which were infinitely better than standard chinese rubbish) At this stage i had a problem. I had bought an exhaust made for a Blata B1 replica and thought that i would modify it to fit. Unfortunately, the expansion chamber wouldnt even fit under the frame! Therefore, i put the original exhaust on for the time being. It is broken and has no end can, and further more, is not tuned like the B1 exhaust. Comparison (B1 top): | ||
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| Shropshire UK | Re: Cagllari HF project (picture heavy) Great job that, must admit I never heard of that bike, what capacity / bhp is it? I want a garage bike project to occupy me!
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| Just another nutter | Re: Cagllari HF project (picture heavy) After checking everything, fitting new fuel line (with halfords fuel filter) It was time to fire her up! Fuel mixture - Because of the supposedly high compression ratio, the reccomended fuel waas either alcohol or 116 octane race fuel ![]() however, because of the chinese tendency to cut corners, the tolerances mustnt have been very good when making the interchangable high compression dome (either that, or the supplier thought that he would chuck in a lower CR dome, hoping that it would do me) so as a result, the compression felt no-where near as much as expected. In fact, it felt like standard compression. Then again, i had also installed a "rocket key" which advances the ignition by 2 degrees, so i still needed to use some decent fuel to ensure engine longevity. therefore, i used shell 98 octane with NOS octane booster, with 2stroke oil at a ratio of 30:1 ![]() I must admit, i was really embarrased to be seen buying octane booster in halfords, everyone knows that only ignorant boy racers buy it "to make more bhp innit" ![]() Starting of the engine! once fueled up and ready, it started first pull!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Unbelievable really - no carb tweaking was necessary, it settled to idle perfectly! Result!Whilst running the engine in, it was time to tune the carb with the correct size jet, and i quickly came to the point of putting the largest jet i had (.96mm) into it, whereupon the spark plug showed that it was running pefectly. Picture of end state last night ![]() ![]() Today, having been running it a lot and no problems so far apart from the penchant for throwing the chain off (the brand new chain was twisted last night, so will never be good untill new one is got) Next: Need a proper kill switch (been earthing the wire off the engine to stop), a proper exhaust sorted out, a chain guard, new chain, new adjustable clutch (one of the original clutch's springs has broken) and a padded seat sorted out. | ||
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| Just another nutter | Re: Cagllari HF project (picture heavy)
![]() originally they have a capacity of 41cc (dispite being sold as 50 or 49 cc) and the "big bore" kit increases the capacity to just uner 49 cc. small and not really impressive, i know, but i love them for the size, they are a lot of fun Stock cagllaris are fairly slow, the european bikes (blata, origami, polini) are all waayy faster and better made. I have had the option of buying a polini, but wanted to restore this and see what they are like power wise after being modded | |||
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| Re: Cagllari HF project (picture heavy) looks laffin that, especially after the condition it was in. Love the colour too lol
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| Just another nutter | Re: Cagllari HF project (picture heavy) bummer. one of the engine mounts on the engine casing snapped last night, tried to araldite it together but broke immediately after, meaning that the engine is no longer held firmly. this then caused the chain to keep comming off, including the last run today where the chain wrapped itself round the rear sprocket, destroying chain, sprocket, and a fair amount of paintwork on the frame ![]() time to work out some other way to mount it (and also cut down on vibration, which was probably what killed it in the first place) i no longer like chinese minimotos ![]() Last edited by Munkul; 16-08-2008 at 18:50. | ||
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| Just another nutter | Re: Cagllari HF project (picture heavy) snapped engine mount - the one that is broken off is the only mount to the frame on that side, as the chinese in their infinite wisdom decided that one bolt would suffice. ![]() I then welded on an extension peice and drilled two more holes, so that there are two mounts per side, and also mounted the engine on a rubber pad to limit the chances of this happening again. ![]() The next job was the exhaust, which was peiced together today from a selection of bits off the B1 rep and the original manifold (bored and cleaned up the flow) ![]() the exhaust was pressed in a vice to clear the top struts, and as a consequence there is about 2mm clearance either side of the frame, such is the size of the expansion chamber ![]() ![]() Im really happy with this, spent all afternoon on it making the flow of it as nice as possible, and saved a fair bit of money (properly tuned Cag exhausts are few and far between in this country). The only thing that really could have been better was the manifold section, which has a smaller bore than the rest, but is should still allow a lot more power than standard, because looking at american attempts some of them use the stock pipe as a basis anyway. Finished result: Last edited by Munkul; 23-08-2008 at 21:19. | ||
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| Just another nutter | Re: Cagllari HF project (picture heavy) new parts came today. new clutch housing (bearings on old one were noisy) with chain/sprocket guard ![]() 2 shoe adjustable clutch, as opposed to three shoe non-adjustable clutch (also with broken spring, the whole assembly fell apart whilst running inside the housing and it was a miracle that it didnt do more damage to the engine casing) ![]() new rear sprocket, has 65 teeth opposed to scratched, bent, worn-out-teeth old sprocket that has 68 teeth ![]() plus new chains. The beast rides again! i notice the difference immediately in gearing, power, and the later clutch bite point nice big red stop button too ![]() new pics, its a far cry from the original state, although the frame could do with a lick of paint again around the chain area ![]() ![]() Last edited by Munkul; 28-08-2008 at 19:08. | ||
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| Re: Cagllari HF project (picture heavy) beatsy mini moto you got there. I wanna spray mine that colour it looks the nuts !
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| Top Dog | Re: Cagllari HF project (picture heavy) nice project there mate... everything running smoothly now? and sprint blue FTW | ||
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| Just another nutter | Re: Cagllari HF project (picture heavy) Cheers - yes its been running well for the past few days, just wearing out knees, pants and shoes from getting my knee down ![]() The engine is going to be stripped again. I want the boost ports enlarged, and the CR dropped some more, and the cylinder head smoothed. Not to mention the piston indexed with the exhaust port. | ||
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| Just another nutter | Re: Cagllari HF project (picture heavy) got second hand engine tacho through the post this morning (going home sick seemed to work out well for me!) it has the capacity to measure the revs of any engine up to a 4 cylinder 2 stroke, and down to a 1 cylinder 4 stroke. Looks pretty cool too ![]() it has a single croc clip to measure ignition pulses, and it doesnt even need direct contact! Quality piece of kit and well worth the money i paid (they still go for over £50 normally S/H on ebay) havent had chance to run it yet, but will be able to see the rise in revs before and after engine rebuilds. Also, i will be able to monitor clutch bite points and powerband Last edited by Munkul; 09-09-2008 at 14:11. | ||
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