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Well my turbo has gone. Cars reeking black smoke but still drives great anyone know where to get a new engine it's 07 plate 1.3 diesel
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Well my turbo has gone. Cars reeking black smoke but still drives great anyone know where to get a new engine it's 07 plate 1.3 diesel
Why a new engine..?

Have you had it properly investigated.

Plenty of the engines around..over 6 million were built..

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Re: Needs turbo

Check the hoses from the turbo to the intake for splits or holes. Any boost pressure that is lost through a leak is a common symptom of black smoke.

If a turbo has gone, you'll usually get lots of white or blue smoke, not black. Black smoke is an indication of over-fuelling.

Could end up being a cheap fix rather than needing a turbo or a whole new engine.
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Re: Needs turbo

I know that there is a screw shredded in a part in front as smoke comes out there too a bit.it's where exhaust fits or something. Had a few things done already and it's had meter put on aswell said it's turbo related. It's a great car just for a new turbo.I and labour it's going to cost a lot.
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Quote Originally Posted by brickfoot View Post
Check the hoses from the turbo to the intake for splits or holes. Any boost pressure that is lost through a leak is a common symptom of black smoke.

If a turbo has gone, you'll usually get lots of white or blue smoke, not black. Black smoke is an indication of over-fuelling.

Could end up being a cheap fix rather than needing a turbo or a whole new engine.
What is Over fuelling?
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Quote Originally Posted by ddebbzz View Post
What is Over fuelling?
When there is a sensor issue. Like a bad connection..or split hose..
The car THINKS there is massive Air coming in..so SENDS MASSIVE FUEL.

Sounds like you've not had it looked at properly..
Been quoted for an engine swap that would be paid for but not done..
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If a turbo has gone, you'll usually get lots of white or blue smoke, not black. Black smoke is an indication of over-fuelling.

Quite common to get lots of black smoke when the turbo dies, injectors will still pour a certain amount of fuel in but without the turbo the engine is lacking air and in effect, seriously over fueling.
It's not much different to jamming your foot on the throttle and getting tons of black smoke out the back as the car tries to fuel for the throttle but the turbo hasn't caught up.


Blue smoke = burning oil can usually a precursor to a turbo going as the oil seals break down and pour oil into the intake.

While smoke is usually a sign of coolant or water in the combustion process.
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Re: Needs turbo

Still not requiring a new engine..
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Quite common to get lots of black smoke when the turbo dies, injectors will still pour a certain amount of fuel in but without the turbo the engine is lacking air and in effect, seriously over fueling.
It's not much different to jamming your foot on the throttle and getting tons of black smoke out the back as the car tries to fuel for the throttle but the turbo hasn't caught up.


Blue smoke = burning oil can usually a precursor to a turbo going as the oil seals break down and pour oil into the intake.

While smoke is usually a sign of coolant or water in the combustion process.
A a small puff of black smoke on acceleration is normal in most cases for a diesel, but when a turbo dies, it's not drawing in enough air, so the ecu fuels according to the air measured. Only time i've seen one fail and give excessive black smoke is when the VNT ring has siezed and effectively lost boost control, however, the ECU should pick up on this and trigger limp mode due to the undesired boost.

Regarding the white smoke, It can indicate failed oil seals at the turbo, notably at the exhaust side, but i agree, in most applications white is a sign of coolant. It can be distinguished by the smokes smell however . It happened to me years ago with my old Coupe. It would belch clouds of white smoke on start-up until warmed up when the seal effectively expanded to stop the oil leak. With the help of @HP we replaced the turbo and it resolved the issue.


In the OP's case, i think he should take it to a different garage for a second opinion. What he's been told doesn't sounds like the garage knows what they are on about, or they've described it in a way to confuse the OP into handing over money for a problem that may not exist and could be a simple fix.
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