SHOCKING NEWS...Reporter says no for a diesel!!

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SHOCKING NEWS...Reporter says no for a diesel!!

crn12

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Hi All

This weekend I was watching an autoshow on CNBC-TV18. During the show a viewer asked that he wants to go for a hatch and he was looking to keep it for a long term 8-9-10 years. He was considering a Suzuki Swift Diesel, Fiat Palio MJD (Diesel), Hyundai I10 (Petrol), Suzuki Wagon-R (Petrol).

This so called auto expert on the channel said the life of the diesel is just 4 yrs and max 5yrs and discouraged him from going for diesel and after that it is prone to a lot of SH**T or issues with the engine and all the other moving parts related to the eng.:eek:

He encouraged him to go for Hyundai I10 or Maruti Wagon-R.

This whole thing shook me becoz, I have just bought a Fiat palio MJD and was wondering if the diesel hatch not the right option for longterm ownership? and is the life of the engine so short? :confused:

Appreciate if all technical gurus of FIAT pls ellabroate on this...Thanks
 
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I'm no guru but I have had 2 or 3 diesels and on my most recent purchase now, a 1.9 MJet GPS. All the diesels I have had have had no issues in particular, if well maintained and treated with sympathy a diesel engine runs on and on and on... 200,000 miles being easily achievable, thats general knowledge. The rest of the running gear is just as good as any petrol car running gear so I dont understand that guys view at all, maybe he is referring to EGR issues? Diesels do suffer with soot blocking those up but its easily fixed, plus with a diesel there is no spark plugs or coil-packs / ignition systems to go wrong.

I like the power delivery from diesels, petrol is cheaper and so is the initial purchase cost (new) of a petrol car against a comparable diesel, but you pays your money and makes your choice! (y)
 
The Fiat 1.9 diesel family can betraced back to the 1.9 diesel indirect injection engines as fitted to the Tempra and Tipo back in 1989. Nearly 20 years!

In my driving time I'm on my 5th turbo diesel. Until my new Bravo multijet they've all been bought on or around 100,000 miles, and between 10 and 7 years old. When I parted with them the engine was always still going strong. So much for them having a life-expectancy of 3 to 4 years.

Notice he suggested them to go for a car from manufacturers who don't really do diesel engines? Bribes anyone?
 
The ealier generation of minimilist diesels had a pretty indefinite service life. Looked after properly they would run as long as you wanted them to. The 1.9 Fiat is very good example, our 1995 Tempra TD was still unruffled at over 100K miles when it was sold out of family ownership. I still miss that car and the way it used to run off the entire length of the M6 without any apparent effort. This is not so true of the modern higher specific output electronically managed high fuel pressure ones, but certainly they are at the very least no worse than a comaprable petrol engine. So IMHO the journo is doing what they seem to do for aliving talking B*ll*cks. And yes they do straight out lie, I was driving through the town here a few years back on a clear road at 17-00h when the local DJ did a segue and advised me traffic was building up where I was, since then I've never believed a word!
 
diesel engines usually last longer than petrol engines, and diesels are almost always more reliable.
 
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Hell Cat: Yup I think you are right I ddidnt notice that, I did speak to couple of FIAT mechanics here, most of them were amazed when I told them this and told me not to beilieve a single word on what he says..

FFoxy : Whats EGR issues and diesels suffering from soot blocking?

Thanks guys for the feedback and I knew I can trust FIAT any time compared to the other car manufacturers..
 
you can clean the EGR every year, along with the MAF, to keep performance and fuel economy at its best. i would do this on any car that had an EGR valve or a MAF sensor.
 
you can clean the EGR every year, along with the MAF, to keep performance and fuel economy at its best. i would do this on any car that had an EGR valve or a MAF sensor.

I was considering that Jug, how long for a half competent spannerman?

Should be a service item I reckon what with emmissions nowadays and fuel economy on most of our minds.
 
Have you ever seen say, a rover 214 diesel and despite it being an 'N' reg, with a battered body, the engine sounds perfect.

No clanks.
No splutters.

Just that annoying, but re-assuring diesel chugging.

Makes me think "that engine will go on forever"
 
I was considering that Jug, how long for a half competent spannerman?
10mins. all you really need to do is diconnect the EGR's pipes and then wipe/hoover it clean. on the MAF all you need to do is spray some circuit board cleaner on the MAF's hot film (little metal wire in path of incoming air)
 
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10mins. all you really need to do is diconnect the EGR's pipes and then wipe/hoover it clean. on the MAF all you need to do is spray some circuit board cleaner on the MAF's hot film (little metal wire in path of incoming air)

Cool, I'll have a bash at that next time the weather is OK and Mrs Ffoxy hasnt got stuff 4 me to do around the ranch...

Now where is that excellent post showing where the EGR and MAF sensors are on the JTD Mjet?
 
Cool, I'll have a bash at that next time the weather is OK and Mrs Ffoxy hasnt got stuff 4 me to do around the ranch...

Now where is that excellent post showing where the EGR and MAF sensors are on the JTD Mjet?

link would be nice please, think ill have to do this along with an extra oil change each year before it goes to the stealer to have its annual service
 
Notice he suggested them to go for a car from manufacturers who don't really do diesel engines? Bribes anyone?

Kia / Hyundai do some excellent diesels and in the rest of Europe the Picanto / i10 is avalable with a mental 1.1 3cyl CRD putting out 75BHP. I wouldn't be in a Panda if they had got their act together and imported that to the UK.

JON
 
Kia / Hyundai do some excellent diesels and in the rest of Europe the Picanto / i10 is avalable with a mental 1.1 3cyl CRD putting out 75BHP. I wouldn't be in a Panda if they had got their act together and imported that to the UK.

JON

Put it this way. Their markets are heavily dependent on petrol models so the diesels are an after thought. Wouldn't have one of them over a tried and trusted Fiat unit any day.
 
With a 5 or 7 year warranty depending on which brand you go for I'd say you were pretty assured of a reliable vehicle. My Panda is falling apart and it's not 3 yet.

I love interesting cars with soul and history but I have a Merc W123 for that and I want my commuting hack to be cheap to run and faultlessly reliable.

JON
 
My dads 1995 Audi A4 1.9TDi had 250kish with only 2services and one cambelt change at 110k. He 'aquired' it with 210k on and it never missed a beat for the 40k he had it for. Its was only a stop gap car inbetween jobs but he was quite sad to see it go as it didn't owe him a penny. Although I believe the turbo was on its way out when he got rid as there was play in the shaft and a slight leak from the seals probably due to the lack of oil changes.

His 'newer' Audi A6 1.8 Petrol has had nearly £300 spent on it in just 7months on engine stuff alone.
 
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