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Old 17-02-2003   #1
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How many Fiat?...

Here... some numbers...

Italy
new car registrations:

top 10 - 2002

FIAT PUNTO 208.497 :D
FIAT PANDA 100.382 :D
Ford Focus(*) 84.725 [}:)]
Peugeot 206 83.171
Opel Corsa 76.683
LANCIA Y 74.528 |)
FIAT STILO 73.506 :D
FIAT SEICENTO 71.044 :D
Renault Clio 69.137
Toyota Yaris 68.851

(*) about 50% are Focus SW, STILO MW was avaible only in December 2002...

TOP 10 - January 2003

FIAT PUNTO 17.503 :D
FIAT SEICENTO 9.352 :D
Ford FOCUS (*) 8.389 [}:)]
FIAT PANDA (**) 8.320 :D
Peugeot 206 7.715
Ford Fiesta 7.635
Citroen C3 7.199
FIAT STILO 6.977 :D
LANCIA Y 6.554 |)
Volkswagen Polo (***) 5.811

(*) I don't know because Stilo is behind Focus... [?][?]
(**) [8D] ever green...
(***) I hate Volks!!... bleah... [xx(]

France

January 2003: 5295 Fiat; 1417 Alfa; 195 Lancia;
(2757 Punto; 1191 Stilo)


Do someone know data of other countries? (UK, Germany, Spain, etc...)

thanks

bye :)

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new pandas get built in italy?!


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No, unfortunately for Italian worker, new pandas get built in Tichy (Poland)...

Now Fiat builts:

Seicento: Tichy (Poland);
Panda: Torino (Italy);
Palio: Betim (Brasil);
Punto: Torino, Termini Imerese, Melfi (Italy);
Stilo: Cassino (Italy);
Marea: Torino, Cassino (Italy);
Doblò: Bursa (Turkey), Belo Horizonte (Brasil);
Multipla: Torino (Italy);
Ulysse: Valenciennes (France);
Barchetta: Chivasso (Italy);

Lancia
Y: Melfi (Ita);
Lybra, Thesis: Rivalta (Ita);
Phedra: Valenciennes (Fra);

Alfa Romeno:
147, 156: Pomigliano d'Arco (Ita);
166: Rivalta (Ita);
GTV e Spider assembled by Pininfarina in Grugliasco (Ita);

Ferrari:
360 Coupè, 360 Spyder, 456M, 575M, F2003GA: Maranello! (Ita);

Maserati:
Coupè, Spyder: Modena (Ita);

bye

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the cinq was built in poland too

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perhaps the useless information thread?

nah only kidding but all i know is my sei came from the garage doon the road - and hasn't looked back zince ;)

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lol

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In Poland - cinquecento is very popular car :)
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MY CINQ WAS BUILT IN SNOWLAND?!?!?! Hum! No wonder it's crap!

Cinq owner, Punto on the way!

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That's not very nice, elchinko [:0]

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Do you have a picture of the facelifted Stilo for us all to see?

Thank you
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Hello Roby76IT.
As production of the Panda ( I mean the real Panda not this new thing ) officially ceased on Sept 5th 2003 and as you are in Turin, can you please advise :-

Have you heard anything which might indicate that Panda production, or jigs and tooling may be moved or sold to any other party, perhaps in a third world country, where production might continue?

If not and if you should hear anything in the future, would you please let us know?

Thank you, Pete. petel@clara.co.uk
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did not no this @ all lol

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Roberto

Do you have a picture of the facelifted Stilo for us all to see?

Thank you
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Ciao Savi,

No I haven't...

But December 11-12 will be presented in Turin the new Fiat Stilo model year 2004...
It won't be a real restyling/facelift... except for a few details (i.e. interior/dashboard two-color)...

Will be available new engines:

diesel 1,9 M-jtd 16v 140 bhp (the same of AR 147!)
petrol 1,4 16v 95 bhp

ciao!! :)

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Hello Roby76IT.
As production of the Panda ( I mean the real Panda not this new thing ) officially ceased on Sept 5th 2003 and as you are in Turin, can you please advise :-

Have you heard anything which might indicate that Panda production, or jigs and tooling may be moved or sold to any other party, perhaps in a third world country, where production might continue?

If not and if you should hear anything in the future, would you please let us know?

Thank you, Pete. petel@clara.co.uk
Hi Pete,

No the last Panda was built in Turin, I don't think which Fiat will build it in another place...

The next Fiat world car will be derived from new project195 (new punto!!), glorius, immortal, legendary Panda won't be product never again...

For your curiosity here the results of Panda sale in Italy till the end in 2003...

September 2003

1 FIAT PUNTO 13.932
2 FIAT (old)PANDA 7.511
3 FIAT STILO 6.137
4 TOYOTA YARIS 5.929
5 CITROEN C3 5.691
6 FORD FOCUS 5.642
7 RENAULT CLIO 5.478
8 FORD FIESTA 5.368
9 RENAULT MEGANE 4.699
10 PEUGEOT 206 4.504





January - Septmber 2003

1 FIAT PUNTO 143.038
2 FIAT (old) PANDA 65.631
3 FIAT SEICENTO 63.883
4 CITROEN C3 61.103
5 RENAULT CLIO 58.862
6 FORD FIESTA 58.290
7 PEUGEOT 206 57.295
8 FORD FOCUS 53.992
9 FIAT STILO 53.524
10 TOYOTA YARIS 51.913


New Panda orders have exceed of 65% the pessimistic estimate of 200.000 units for 2004 and of 22% the optimistic of 270.000 units...
Fiat estimates to sell 330.000 new Panda for 2004!!...

Similar condition for new Lancia Ypsilon 120.000 initially estimated... 130.000-140.000 now expected after two months of orders...

In Italy after two months Panda has had 95.000 orders, new Lancia Ypsilon 50.000...

but Panda never will die in our hearts.....

:)

Roberto

ps
In Italy a slogan said: Panda se non ci fosse bisognerebbe inventarla!
Ask to Savi to translate it...........

ciao!! :)

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The slogan translates to:

If the Panda didn't exist, it needs to be invented!

That's about as close as the translation gets, it make sense in Italian anyway.
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