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What is a pitbull doing anywhere near a 5 year old child?
What is a pitbull doing anywhere near a 5 year old child?
And they want to repeal the DD act?
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It was only this week a teenager was attacked by a pack of pitbulls in the US, he managed to survive.
That's really sad, poor little kid.
As you say though, why is a dog like that anywhere around a child of that age. Oh yeah, chavs have to have their status symbols don't they, no matter how much it costs in blood. I am not saying that's all pitbull owners, my daughter has one and it's a lovely dog. But if they do turn then it's a high risk animal than can't be trusted around children.
As you say though, why is a dog like that anywhere around a child of that age. Oh yeah, chavs have to have their status symbols don't they, no matter how much it costs in blood. I am not saying that's all pitbull owners, my daughter has one and it's a lovely dog. But if they do turn then it's a high risk animal than can't be trusted around children.
We have a Pit Bull next door and it's a lovely dog, very playful and friendly. It's solid muscle though and I still wouldn't trust it. It's only a matter of time before they are banned.
its sad the breed has been tarred.bull terriers are great dogs but attract the wrong type of owners.
all dogs need monitoring around kids
all dogs need monitoring around kids
I've been around "dangerous dogs" most of my life rottys, dobermans my sister currently has two english pit bulls. I've never once been scared of what they might do. I have only been bitten by a dog twice once by a yapping mexican midget, and once by a labrador. the lab made quite a mess of my hand. But I blame the owner in that case. As to put it nicely the dog wasn't in exactly a stable loving enviroment.
The dog wasn't destroyed thankfully but the owner is now banned from owning pets!
I think before people are too quick to assume certain types of dog are dangerous they should maybe look into certain types of owner being dangerous.
The dog wasn't destroyed thankfully but the owner is now banned from owning pets!
I think before people are too quick to assume certain types of dog are dangerous they should maybe look into certain types of owner being dangerous.
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I've been around "dangerous dogs" most of my life rottys, dobermans my sister currently has two english pit bulls. I've never once been scared of what they might do. I have only been bitten by a dog twice once by a yapping mexican midget, and once by a labrador. the lab made quite a mess of my hand. But I blame the owner in that case. As to put it nicely the dog wasn't in exactly a stable loving enviroment.
The dog wasn't destroyed thankfully but the owner is now banned from owning pets!
I think before people are too quick to assume certain types of dog are dangerous they should maybe look into certain types of owner being dangerous.
4 Rotty's later I am fully aware of what constitutes a danger to a child. All dogs have the ability to turn at some point but it's down to the owner to ensure the environment is safe for children in particular.
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Our daughter was attacked in our garden a few years back, by the neighbours' dog - it was a new mongrel they had recently acquired from the Rescue centre [the previous owner had given it up because he was prone to escaping ]
So once in our garden, having found a way through the 6 foot hedge, he went straight up to her, as she bounced on the trampoline, and sunk his teeth into her thigh....
And the response? NOTHING.
The Police said nothing could be done, because it was on private property; the neighbour said we were in the wrong for not securing our property :nutter: even though we were never told he had a new dog, we had to fork out £200 to secure our garden with stakes and wire, and our daughter lives in fear of that dog everyday. He was told to secure his side, and it took him around 2 months to do that.
Was it destroyed? No. Can the neighbour still own pets? Yes.
]So once in our garden, having found a way through the 6 foot hedge, he went straight up to her, as she bounced on the trampoline, and sunk his teeth into her thigh....
And the response? NOTHING.
The Police said nothing could be done, because it was on private property; the neighbour said we were in the wrong for not securing our property :nutter: even though we were never told he had a new dog, we had to fork out £200 to secure our garden with stakes and wire, and our daughter lives in fear of that dog everyday. He was told to secure his side, and it took him around 2 months to do that.
Was it destroyed? No. Can the neighbour still own pets? Yes.
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Our daughter was attacked in our garden a few years back, by the neighbours' dog - it was a new mongrel they had recently acquired from the Rescue centre [the previous owner had given it up because he was prone to escaping
So once in our garden, having found a way through the 6 foot hedge, he went straight up to her, as she bounced on the trampoline, and sunk his teeth into her thigh....
And the response? NOTHING.
The Police said nothing could be done, because it was on private property; the neighbour said we were in the wrong for not securing our property :nutter: even though we were never told he had a new dog, we had to fork out £200 to secure our garden with stakes and wire, and our daughter lives in fear of that dog everyday. He was told to secure his side, and it took him around 2 months to do that.
Was it destroyed? No. Can the neighbour still own pets? Yes.
Stu, I swear that I would take that dog out with my bare hands if it harmed my daughter. In Spain a dog lurched up and bit my daughter on the neck. I spent the last 3 days of my holiday scouring the resort in order to kill it. No luck though.
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I wasn't there at the time, luckily for the dog.
Also, my neighbour is a big fella, who had threatened to damage the cars in the past due to previous issues with them.
I was also pretty angry at the Police response - although the Paramedics did call them out as a matter of course; they just didn't seem to care or be bothered.
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Bit of a paradox that, big fella who opts to damage cars rather than get physical? Can't be that tough surely?
Being and ex postie i treat all dogs with kid gloves i know lots of people who have been biten. luckly i never was but if i ever had been biten i would have reported it.
I cannot understand why people have dangerous dogs especially around children its just asking for trouble.
In my expirience its usually the smaller dogs that bite. i was always wary of anything under knee height, i was ready with my boot if it came to close with teeth showing!
I cannot understand why people have dangerous dogs especially around children its just asking for trouble.
In my expirience its usually the smaller dogs that bite. i was always wary of anything under knee height, i was ready with my boot if it came to close with teeth showing!
Our daughter was attacked in our garden a few years back, by the neighbours' dog - it was a new mongrel they had recently acquired from the Rescue centre [the previous owner had given it up because he was prone to escaping
So once in our garden, having found a way through the 6 foot hedge, he went straight up to her, as she bounced on the trampoline, and sunk his teeth into her thigh....
And the response? NOTHING.
The Police said nothing could be done, because it was on private property; the neighbour said we were in the wrong for not securing our property :nutter: even though we were never told he had a new dog, we had to fork out £200 to secure our garden with stakes and wire, and our daughter lives in fear of that dog everyday. He was told to secure his side, and it took him around 2 months to do that.
Was it destroyed? No. Can the neighbour still own pets? Yes.
Whatever Police officer spoke to you and told you that was talking Absolute Bo**OCKS........
If the owner or, if different, the person for the time being in charge of a dog allows it to enter a place which is not a public place but where it is not permitted to be and while it is there—
(a) it injures any person; or
(b) there are grounds for reasonable apprehension that it will do so,
he is guilty of an offence, or, if the dog injures any person, an aggravated offence, under this subsection.
Our daughter was attacked in our garden a few years back, by the neighbours' dog - it was a new mongrel they had recently acquired from the Rescue centre [the previous owner had given it up because he was prone to escaping
So once in our garden, having found a way through the 6 foot hedge, he went straight up to her, as she bounced on the trampoline, and sunk his teeth into her thigh....
And the response? NOTHING.
The Police said nothing could be done, because it was on private property; the neighbour said we were in the wrong for not securing our property :nutter: even though we were never told he had a new dog, we had to fork out £200 to secure our garden with stakes and wire, and our daughter lives in fear of that dog everyday. He was told to secure his side, and it took him around 2 months to do that.
Was it destroyed? No. Can the neighbour still own pets? Yes.
My humble opinion of dogs is that they are unnecessary vermin all they do is eat sh*t and make lots of noise to annoy me :bang: wish they had a hunting season for them
Buy a shotgun Stu or practice your kicking skills.
We was walking in the woods once with our kids and a bulldog went nuts, it's owner was calling it but the dog ignored the owner so I knew we were in trouble. I called my daughter to come back to me as I saw the dog running toward her snarling but I wasn't taking any chances, I stepped forward and booted the dog in the mush as hard as I could. It soon changed it's attitude. Maybe I was a little hasty but I'd rather see the dog injured than have my daughter torn to pieces.
I have owned loads of dogs so I know how to handle them, even the nasty ones can be easily brought down to size. But when they are clearly in a zone you have to act quickly.
We'll be getting a dog this summer, maybe a Scotty or even a cocker spaniel.
or practice your kicking skills.We was walking in the woods once with our kids and a bulldog went nuts, it's owner was calling it but the dog ignored the owner so I knew we were in trouble. I called my daughter to come back to me as I saw the dog running toward her snarling but I wasn't taking any chances, I stepped forward and booted the dog in the mush as hard as I could. It soon changed it's attitude. Maybe I was a little hasty but I'd rather see the dog injured than have my daughter torn to pieces.
I have owned loads of dogs so I know how to handle them, even the nasty ones can be easily brought down to size. But when they are clearly in a zone you have to act quickly.
We'll be getting a dog this summer, maybe a Scotty or even a cocker spaniel.
get a spaniel over the scottie unless pauline fowler is your style icon
What a tragic start to 2007 this is. That poor baby, I cannot begin to imagine how distraught her family must be, and my heart goes out to them.
I have grown up around dogs of all sorts, alsatians, labradors, collies, yorkies, rottweilers, and currently my Jack Russell (see the pic). Anyone who says that all breeds of dogs are not potentially dangerous are quite frankly ignorant. I know that all the dogs that have been in our family have been highly trained, but even so, my parents would never ever leave ANY of the breeds we had alone with any of us as children.
The thing is that children do not understand that dogs are not "play things" and they can be treating it as one of their dolls/stuffed toys whatever, and this is one thing that can lead to tragic consequences. I know I can do anything to my JR, and he will always know his place with me. Put another person, particularly a child, in that same environment and treatment with him, then it is a different story. I get extremely cautious and fearful. The simple reason being that you simply don't know what is going to annoy them, and set them off. even when i am playing with him (which can get pretty rough), I always have one eye on his behaviour, as a matter of instinct.
I also blame the owners in a lot of respects here (hmmmm, this seems to link to that "other" thread of parenting in some ways). They either do not know or appreciate what is involved in dog ownership. And in alot of cases no adequate superevision and control over the dog. Dogs also need excercising, otherwise they simply become frustrated and take it out on whatever or whoever is around.
As well as the little girl and her family, I also feel sorry for the dog, who was put down.
I have grown up around dogs of all sorts, alsatians, labradors, collies, yorkies, rottweilers, and currently my Jack Russell (see the pic). Anyone who says that all breeds of dogs are not potentially dangerous are quite frankly ignorant. I know that all the dogs that have been in our family have been highly trained, but even so, my parents would never ever leave ANY of the breeds we had alone with any of us as children.
The thing is that children do not understand that dogs are not "play things" and they can be treating it as one of their dolls/stuffed toys whatever, and this is one thing that can lead to tragic consequences. I know I can do anything to my JR, and he will always know his place with me. Put another person, particularly a child, in that same environment and treatment with him, then it is a different story. I get extremely cautious and fearful. The simple reason being that you simply don't know what is going to annoy them, and set them off. even when i am playing with him (which can get pretty rough), I always have one eye on his behaviour, as a matter of instinct.
I also blame the owners in a lot of respects here (hmmmm, this seems to link to that "other" thread of parenting in some ways). They either do not know or appreciate what is involved in dog ownership. And in alot of cases no adequate superevision and control over the dog. Dogs also need excercising, otherwise they simply become frustrated and take it out on whatever or whoever is around.
As well as the little girl and her family, I also feel sorry for the dog, who was put down.
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My Jack russel was one of my favourites, absolutely full of beans and so proud of himself when in public
lol custard, spaniels are considered a more a "girlie" dog than a Scottish terrier so I was expecting the opposite reaction. Scotties are rat catching dogs initially and full of life, Pauline Fowler has given them a bad name
lol custard, spaniels are considered a more a "girlie" dog than a Scottish terrier so I was expecting the opposite reaction. Scotties are rat catching dogs initially and full of life, Pauline Fowler has given them a bad name
This is a follow up.
If the original tragedy was not bad enought to cope with, this makes it that much worse, hence proving my point, all to forcefully, about the owners being the only ones to blame:
http://www.orange.co.uk/news/topsto..._newsandweather&link=link_title&article=index
If the original tragedy was not bad enought to cope with, this makes it that much worse, hence proving my point, all to forcefully, about the owners being the only ones to blame:
http://www.orange.co.uk/news/topsto..._newsandweather&link=link_title&article=index
Bring back the dog licence!
The idea though is not to make money, but to vet the owners. A bit like the now redundant gun licence. Some people shouldn't be trusted with fresh air, let alone a potential killing machine.
The idea though is not to make money, but to vet the owners. A bit like the now redundant gun licence. Some people shouldn't be trusted with fresh air, let alone a potential killing machine.
