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Re: Parking in gear

It's always a good idea to put the clutch down when starting the engine. It reduces the load on the starter because it's not turning the gearbox input shaft and connected bits in cold oil.
Like a lot of modern cars the Croma insists you press either the clutch or brake pedal before the starter will engage.

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Like a lot of modern cars the Croma insists you press either the clutch or brake pedal before the starter will engage.


Yep, golf and mini (old mini and our new one) all require the clutch down before they will start.

Many new cars also have electronic started so no connection between the ignition and the starter motor like the olden days.

For example, put the key in the golf flick it on to the start position and let go, it will then warm the plugs and start the engine at the appropriate time without any further input.

New mini has a big start toggle in the middle of the dash and you flick this (with the keys somewhere in the car) and again it will warm the plugs and spring into life not needing any further input.

Don't push the clutch and you get a warning on the dash telling you to push the clutch pedal to start.

Don't see there is really any need to park a car in gear, years ago when cars had very poor cast iron drum brakes maybe but not new cars with much higher build quality and brake.
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Always park in gear with handbrake off ,unless on a hill. If car not used for a while it saves the handbrake sticking on .
It's also illegal, dangerous and invalidates your insurance policy to park with your handbrake off. Not recommended
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Well this is the thing, new cars braking systems should work really well & in theory that should be fine, but human nature being what it is, some will still be in the habit of leaving in gear. At the end of the day does it really matter. It may seem senseless to some but not to others. Just to add I'm in the habit of pushing in the clutch pedal when starting any vehicle, old skool remember Obviously if you're in a situation that requires the use of the handbrake you're going to use it.....No stop, I think I'm beginning to sound too obvious..

Why do I get that feeling that some are thinking that oranges are just the only fruit.... Seriously gentlemen it's not the end of driving as we all know it. I can think of far more annoying habits.. OK I'm going to stop now....
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I tend to leave in gear too. When I parked on the drive at home I don't put the handbrake on either!

As for clicking the handbrake that really annoys me for some reason. Has anyone ever noticed that Mike Wheeler does it all the time? And he slams doors/bonnet/boot too! Argh!!
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Aye, slamming car doors does it for me to. We're way off topic now?
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I have nearly always lived on a steep hill. I therefore have always parked in gear. 1st while pointing uphill and reverse pointing downhill.

Over the years, there were several incidents at home where cars have rolled down the hill. One went straight across the main road at the bottom and into the fence opposite, but luckily nothing was coming along the main road at the time. Another was stopped by my dad's car.
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Re: Parking in gear

With the hills around me I always put the wheel into the kerb, into reverse gear and the handbrake fully extended.

If I had electronic braking Id be putting bricks under the wheels too

On the flat, the handbrake only will do
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Re: Parking in gear

Quote Originally Posted by g8rpi View Post
It's always a good idea to put the clutch down when starting the engine. It reduces the load on the starter because it's not turning the gearbox input shaft and connected bits in cold oil.

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I know plenty of AUTO drivers who swear the only time the handbrake gets used is at it's MOT...

unfortunately the news items of modern auto incidents bear this out..
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Re: Parking in gear

handbrake barely functions (just passed mot)
always leave it in gear, just opposite anything in front / behind.
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What is the best way you find to park in gear. Do you put the car in neutral, switch off and put in gear after switching off?
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Re: Parking in gear

Depends on why it's being parked in gear, if a steep hill, I'll hold it on the brake, switch off, release clutch, then brake. If it's to stop handbrake sticking on when leaving a car for a while, I'll park in neutral, then engage a gear, but in that case I'll be parking on the flat anyway. Also use a choc.

I've discovered that my HDI engined Citroen(Ulysee) won't hold in gear on anything more than a slight slope, some kind of decompression valve in the engine?

Never got into the habit of depressing the clutch when starting, always foot on brake and select neutral. I guess too many years of driving hydraulic Citroens, where no pump pressure means no clutch...
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I've discovered that my HDI engined Citroen(Ulysee) won't hold in gear on anything more than a slight slope, some kind of decompression valve in the engine?
Many engines these days don't seem to hold the car on hills. So a habit of many may well not prevent an issue.

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If the rear brakes are drums, there is a technique to help the handbrake hold on hills. When braking a moving vehicle, pressure to the rear brakes is restricted, to prevent lockup. Once stopped, full pressure can be applied.

Stop the car normally. DO NOT apply the handbrake yet.
Now, press the footbrake hard. This will squeeze the rear brake shoes hard against the drums. You may hear them creak a little, confirming this.
With footbrake held hard, now apply the handbrake.

This technique uses the footbrake to push the shoes against the drums, by-passing any mechanical weaknesses in the design or operation of the handbrake mechanism. Let the footbrake do the work, and the handbrake just hold it there.

Small Fiats, esp. classic Panda, Seicento, and Corsa C are notorious for weak handbrakes. Using this technique I have safely parked all of those on some very steep hills.
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Many engines these days don't seem to hold the car on hills. So a habit of many may well not prevent an issue.



If the rear brakes are drums, there is a technique to help the handbrake hold on hills. When braking a moving vehicle, pressure to the rear brakes is restricted, to prevent lockup. Once stopped, full pressure can be applied.

Stop the car normally. DO NOT apply the handbrake yet.
Now, press the footbrake hard. This will squeeze the rear brake shoes hard against the drums. You may hear them creak a little, confirming this.
With footbrake held hard, now apply the handbrake.

This technique uses the footbrake to push the shoes against the drums, by-passing any mechanical weaknesses in the design or operation of the handbrake mechanism. Let the footbrake do the work, and the handbrake just hold it there.

Small Fiats, esp. classic Panda, Seicento, and Corsa C are notorious for weak handbrakes. Using this technique I have safely parked all of those on some very steep hills.
afraid its full discs, not even heat related.
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afraid its full discs, not even heat related.
Whatever it is on then, should be fine. Just needs fixing, back to as new condition.
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