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Re: What's made you grumpy today?
Cheapest tyres for me (totally budget) are £49.80
Cost of the rear tyres
Cheapest tyres for me (totally budget) are £49.80
Re: What's made you grumpy today?
that's still a lot you could get 15" toyo t1r's for a punto for £30 this time last year
Cheapest tyres for me (totally budget) are £49.80
that's still a lot you could get 15" toyo t1r's for a punto for £30 this time last year
Re: What's made you grumpy today?
The fester, has a full set of new tyres and 2 are dedicated winters! I have it almost ready, just a fuel filter to buy, the rest I have
After all the work I put into the van, I'd be terrified someone would make bits of it or I'd get caught out
The fester, has a full set of new tyres and 2 are dedicated winters! I have it almost ready, just a fuel filter to buy, the rest I have
After all the work I put into the van, I'd be terrified someone would make bits of it or I'd get caught out
Re: What's made you grumpy today?
So you've put two winter tyres on the front..... what happens when you brake and the front tyres grip and stop and the rear tyres just keep on going? Or when you corner and the front tyres dig in and the rears don't. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS fit 4 winter tyres.
The fester, has a full set of new tyres and 2 are dedicated winters! I have it almost ready, just a fuel filter to buy, the rest I have
After all the work I put into the van, I'd be terrified someone would make bits of it or I'd get caught out
So you've put two winter tyres on the front..... what happens when you brake and the front tyres grip and stop and the rear tyres just keep on going? Or when you corner and the front tyres dig in and the rears don't. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS fit 4 winter tyres.
Re: What's made you grumpy today?
FLOL then the back stop aswell. Its not a ****ing bendy bus.
FLOL then the back stop aswell. Its not a ****ing bendy bus.
Re: What's made you grumpy today?
Wow, just wow. It's nice to see someone on here who has no understanding of how a car handles......
Wow, just wow. It's nice to see someone on here who has no understanding of how a car handles......
Re: What's made you grumpy today?
then you adjust your driving to compensate, many times ive driven cars with no rear brakes because the self adjuster have not worked and never had the back of the car overtake the front
then you adjust your driving to compensate, many times ive driven cars with no rear brakes because the self adjuster have not worked and never had the back of the car overtake the front
Re: What's made you grumpy today?
The set of tyres I got came in on another car I got given to me, they were all brand new so I decided to use them. Much better than the bald yokes that came off!
If I were out to get winter tyres I'd have bought a full set But I'm not complaining at the 2 I got for nothing...
The set of tyres I got came in on another car I got given to me, they were all brand new so I decided to use them. Much better than the bald yokes that came off!
If I were out to get winter tyres I'd have bought a full set
But I'm not complaining at the 2 I got for nothing...
Re: What's made you grumpy today?
Did you do that in the snow? When you've got loads of grip on a dry road you will get away with it, but on snow and ice you're going to come a cropper sooner or later.
But hey, what would Michelin know?
Did you do that in the snow? When you've got loads of grip on a dry road you will get away with it, but on snow and ice you're going to come a cropper sooner or later.
But hey, what would Michelin know?
Re: What's made you grumpy today?
Watch from about 2:30 onwards. Now tell me I'm wrong. OMGLOLZORS it's not a bendy bus ...... actually it is
Watch from about 2:30 onwards. Now tell me I'm wrong. OMGLOLZORS it's not a bendy bus ...... actually it is
Re: What's made you grumpy today?
Two winter tyres are better than no winter tyres
Not everyone is in a position to buy 4 winter tyres. Sadly I am one of those and I'll have to make do with my already "near the wear mark" tyres on the cars.
My big grump from this week is head gasket on the landy has gone and can't afford parts till pay day. GF's car is in need of crushing but she won't let it go as it still has MOT, so I've done a deal she gets my pug and I get hers, then when MOT runs out hers goes for scrap, she continues to use the pug and by then I "should" have landy back on the road.
My equally annoying grump is that my flat still has no tenant even though there's a list as long as my arm of homeless people in the area. However they get to live in nice plush hostels and in some cases B&B's at tax payers expense until a property comes up that they like! WTF they are homeless they should be told to move into one of the hundreds of empty properties and stop being a ****, especially as they'll get housing bene anyways! Does my head in as there is great pressure from the local authorities on property owners to not leave them empty or in any state of disrepair GGGRRRRRRRRRR :bang: There's plans to charge landlords for council tax on empty properties too! WTF bend me over shaft me for hundreds of pounds in bringing the property up to local authority standards (that are way above the law) then mess me about with letting homeless people choose where they want to live then charge me for the privialige
Two winter tyres are better than no winter tyres
Not everyone is in a position to buy 4 winter tyres. Sadly I am one of those and I'll have to make do with my already "near the wear mark" tyres on the cars.
My big grump from this week is head gasket on the landy has gone and can't afford parts till pay day. GF's car is in need of crushing but she won't let it go as it still has MOT, so I've done a deal she gets my pug and I get hers, then when MOT runs out hers goes for scrap, she continues to use the pug and by then I "should" have landy back on the road.
My equally annoying grump is that my flat still has no tenant even though there's a list as long as my arm of homeless people in the area. However they get to live in nice plush hostels and in some cases B&B's at tax payers expense until a property comes up that they like! WTF they are homeless they should be told to move into one of the hundreds of empty properties and stop being a ****, especially as they'll get housing bene anyways! Does my head in as there is great pressure from the local authorities on property owners to not leave them empty or in any state of disrepair GGGRRRRRRRRRR :bang:
There's plans to charge landlords for council tax on empty properties too! WTF bend me over shaft me for hundreds of pounds in bringing the property up to local authority standards (that are way above the law) then mess me about with letting homeless people choose where they want to live then charge me for the privialige 
Re: What's made you grumpy today?
This argument again... SNOW SOCKS FTW
This argument again... SNOW SOCKS FTW
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Re: What's made you grumpy today?
I don't agree with the first bit but accept the 2nd bit.
The thing about having 2 winter tyres on the front (on a fwd car) is that you might be able to get out of your street because you've got traction, but when you come to brake then you might have the rear overtake the front. If you've got no winter tyres on you probably won't be able to get out of your street so won't be able to have that accident. If you've not got the money for 4 winter tyres then you might find you're best off just leaving the car at home. I know that's not going to sit well with people who will feel like they'll then be cut off from the outside world, but it's a fact. Better just stay off the road for the shortish time that the snow sticks around than be a danger to others. Most insurance companies also don't seem to be particularly happy about you running 2 winter tyres and 2 summer tyres. In fact that recently said that they don't like people running mixed sets of tyres.....
As for snow socks, no thanks, my winter tyres don't need to be chopped and changed as I go from a road where there is no snow to one which has snow on it. Snow socks also don't work in slush either and have a speed limit of 30mph. No thanks I think I'd prefer to run 2 winter tyres!!!!!
Two winter tyres are better than no winter tyres
Not everyone is in a position to buy 4 winter tyres. Sadly I am one of those and I'll have to make do with my already "near the wear mark" tyres on the cars.
I don't agree with the first bit but accept the 2nd bit.
The thing about having 2 winter tyres on the front (on a fwd car) is that you might be able to get out of your street because you've got traction, but when you come to brake then you might have the rear overtake the front. If you've got no winter tyres on you probably won't be able to get out of your street so won't be able to have that accident. If you've not got the money for 4 winter tyres then you might find you're best off just leaving the car at home. I know that's not going to sit well with people who will feel like they'll then be cut off from the outside world, but it's a fact. Better just stay off the road for the shortish time that the snow sticks around than be a danger to others. Most insurance companies also don't seem to be particularly happy about you running 2 winter tyres and 2 summer tyres. In fact that recently said that they don't like people running mixed sets of tyres.....
As for snow socks, no thanks, my winter tyres don't need to be chopped and changed as I go from a road where there is no snow to one which has snow on it. Snow socks also don't work in slush either and have a speed limit of 30mph. No thanks
I think I'd prefer to run 2 winter tyres!!!!!
Re: What's made you grumpy today?
Im one of those drivers whos not going to bother with winter tyres..
my car handled perfectly in the snow last year, and at that time i was living at my then girlfriends, who lives on a farm in the middle of no where...
I feel confident in my own skills to be able to handle my car with my premium brand tyres on.
At the end of the day, if i can stop my car with or without winter tyres, its not going to stop the idiot who cant handle their car hitting you...
Im one of those drivers whos not going to bother with winter tyres..
my car handled perfectly in the snow last year, and at that time i was living at my then girlfriends, who lives on a farm in the middle of no where...
I feel confident in my own skills to be able to handle my car with my premium brand tyres on.
At the end of the day, if i can stop my car with or without winter tyres, its not going to stop the idiot who cant handle their car hitting you...
Re: What's made you grumpy today?
I'm sure no one here would complain if they got 2 winter tyres to use let alone getting new ones on rims for free. I read that you really need them in a newish condition to be fully effective. At 4 mm of thread left, their usefulness as a winter tyre is practically gone.
I am in no position to buy tyres (unemployed for nearly 3 years and in college). I need my car for my commute to college, so I am very grateful that I got these tyres for my car
Its not an option to stay at home and starve to death, in 2009 there was a water cutoff for 2 weeks, which meant we had to brave the elements to keep watered in cars with normal tyres. Public transport here is non existent and we live in the country. Last year Dublin city ground to a halt when the buses couldn't get up a slight incline, had to walk 8 miles to my car in some of the most dangerous and freezing conditions I'd ever experienced here. What the hell are we meant to do?
Can you not be happy that at least least some people are making an attempt to make their commute that bit safer? There are a lot more important matters than winter tyres such as uninsured drivers and people driving drunk here
Please end this debate now and well all come to the conclusion that when I have the money I'LL BUY A FULL SET
I'm sure no one here would complain if they got 2 winter tyres to use let alone getting new ones on rims for free. I read that you really need them in a newish condition to be fully effective. At 4 mm of thread left, their usefulness as a winter tyre is practically gone.
I am in no position to buy tyres (unemployed for nearly 3 years and in college). I need my car for my commute to college, so I am very grateful that I got these tyres for my car
Its not an option to stay at home and starve to death, in 2009 there was a water cutoff for 2 weeks, which meant we had to brave the elements to keep watered in cars with normal tyres. Public transport here is non existent and we live in the country. Last year Dublin city ground to a halt when the buses couldn't get up a slight incline, had to walk 8 miles to my car in some of the most dangerous and freezing conditions I'd ever experienced here. What the hell are we meant to do?
Can you not be happy that at least least some people are making an attempt to make their commute that bit safer? There are a lot more important matters than winter tyres such as uninsured drivers and people driving drunk here
Please end this debate now and well all come to the conclusion that when I have the money I'LL BUY A FULL SET
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Re: What's made you grumpy today?
Yes, but by the time you've finished crashing into my car I'll already have my torque wrench out of the boot and I'll be beating your skull in with it
Yes, but by the time you've finished crashing into my car I'll already have my torque wrench out of the boot and I'll be beating your skull in with it
Re: What's made you grumpy today?
Cost of the rear tyres
Don't wanna pay buy a fiat ffs. Always makes me laugh when people buy a BMW and whine about the cost
Re: What's made you grumpy today?
Found a set of 255/35/18R W94 for £81 each
My mate has just bought a VXr Astra... which runs 255/35/19's... the cheapest been £198...
Cost of the rear tyres
Found a set of 255/35/18R W94 for £81 each
My mate has just bought a VXr Astra... which runs 255/35/19's... the cheapest been £198...
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Re: What's made you grumpy today?
You're missing the point. With winter tyres you might actually be making things worse for yourself in effect. My wife trundles around in her Subaru with winter tyres on all four corners quite safely. She only does small distances (it's only a mile to work for her). Having 4 summer tyres on all 4 corners, she's very conscious of the grip levels and doesn't have the false impression of grip that you get from having 2 good tyres on the front. If she had 2 winter tyres on the front and she goes to brake then she runs the risk of spinning the car.
People are missing the point when they think that more grip is automatically better. Watch those videos and you'll see why it isn't. On a FWD car on snow and ice, the balance will be far too far towards oversteer. Whilst you may think you're Colin McRae or Ari Vatanen, you're probably not. It really isn't about the amount of the grip you've got, it's the balance between front and rear grip that keeps your car pointing straight ahead. You wouldn't put a new pair of coilovers on the front of a car and leave the rear with some 15 year old original shocks would you?
I think some people have to accept that sometimes if you're not properly equipped that sometimes you shouldn't go out on the roads in your car or you shouldn't go for a walk up a mountain etc etc. I know that might sound like big bad old decadent 306maxi in his nearly new 500 with expensive tyres and he doesn't want the lower classes on the roads, but it's simply not like that and my experience (and what tyre companies say!) says that in severe conditions you really do want a car with balanced handling characteristics.
You're missing the point. With winter tyres you might actually be making things worse for yourself in effect. My wife trundles around in her Subaru with winter tyres on all four corners quite safely. She only does small distances (it's only a mile to work for her). Having 4 summer tyres on all 4 corners, she's very conscious of the grip levels and doesn't have the false impression of grip that you get from having 2 good tyres on the front. If she had 2 winter tyres on the front and she goes to brake then she runs the risk of spinning the car.
People are missing the point when they think that more grip is automatically better. Watch those videos and you'll see why it isn't. On a FWD car on snow and ice, the balance will be far too far towards oversteer. Whilst you may think you're Colin McRae or Ari Vatanen, you're probably not. It really isn't about the amount of the grip you've got, it's the balance between front and rear grip that keeps your car pointing straight ahead. You wouldn't put a new pair of coilovers on the front of a car and leave the rear with some 15 year old original shocks would you?
I think some people have to accept that sometimes if you're not properly equipped that sometimes you shouldn't go out on the roads in your car or you shouldn't go for a walk up a mountain etc etc. I know that might sound like big bad old decadent 306maxi in his nearly new 500 with expensive tyres and he doesn't want the lower classes on the roads, but it's simply not like that and my experience (and what tyre companies say!) says that in severe conditions you really do want a car with balanced handling characteristics.
