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this place you live is sounding better and better the more you post about it
you would think living with 4 women and being the only man would be good.... its not
Is this the place where somebody recently left the back door open?
Sorry my mind wandered off the subject a bit for a minute.
Have I imagined it or wasn't a £12 Billion (yes that was £12 BILLION) scheme that tried to link up the entire NHS infrastructure recntly scrapped or am I wrong?"Bring in a nationwide ban on any future pie in the sky IT projects that nobody needs."
They DESPERATELY need their IT systems updated. Did you not see the article on BBC News the other day about NHS England, how they could prevent 16,000 deaths a year if they could log things properly etc? Other massive companies manage and keep up to date with their data, why can't the public sector? Terrible management and very poor hiring choices.
Agree with everything else though, but remember, that's common sense and of course it's something that doesn't apply to the public sector.
Im not signing it, ive signed many of these before including one quite recently and they never get listed to..
I signed a petition just last week regarding my local A&E closing down, and it closed TODAY a week after they said they were consulting...
Pontefract A&E is a BRAND NEW facility only opening last summer, at a cost to the tax payer of £250m... and they partially closed it today..
I signed a petition just last week regarding my local A&E closing down, and it closed TODAY a week after they said they were consulting...
Pontefract A&E is a BRAND NEW facility only opening last summer, at a cost to the tax payer of £250m... and they partially closed it today..
Absolutely correct and appalling. 8 billion on consulting alone. wish we had that sort of budget lol.
And the consultants would know doubt be able to justify the hours billed because the client wouldn't be able to specify what they required properly, so the spec would keep changing, and as things move quickly, by the time they settled on a spec it would be out of date!
This is exactly what I meant. If this had been a private company instead of the NHS, they would never have started such a project without a clear objective and a budget. Because it is the NHS the suppliers think every day is Christmas.
This is exactly what I meant. If this had been a private company instead of the NHS, they would never have started such a project without a clear objective and a budget. Because it is the NHS the suppliers think every day is Christmas.
Completely agree. And no one is doing anything to fix it. That's the worst part. The NHS could be run much more efficiently but no one has the balls to tackle it.
As someone who used to work for the software provider for 2 of the 5 regions, I can tell you with absolute certainty that the project itself was a fantastic idea and the thing that sunk it was indifference and resistance from the NHS itself.
The concept of your health record being available to any doctor who can treat you is a great idea. The idea that the workflows in any given dept are standardised across the entire NHS is an even better idea. Imagine if all specialties had the same workflow across the NHS. Staff could move around freely, they could be called in when required to deal with extra demand with no additional training, there could be massive efficiencies which in turn would free up a lot of resource for treating the patient.
But the people who killed this, those who shouldn't be able to sleep at night for the unconscionable things they did to make patient care worse, are the NHS themselves. They're so afraid of change its scary. Left to their own devices they'd still be chiselling notes on stone tablets and pondering the theory of the four humours. And when anyone tried to have a rational discussion they ran to the press screaming "someone's meddling with patient care! OMG!!!!!!1111" and "leave our NHS alone!".
F*cking boll*cks. The NHS has no one but itself to blame for the shamefully inefficient mess that its in. I have zero sympathy for it until it pulls its head out of arse and gets dragged kicking and screaming into at least the last century.
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I'd have to disagree about why the IT project failed..it was because the company made promises of the software that just werent possible. The software was never going to work in the way that it was sold. yes, it was a "fantastic idea" but it was never going to be workable.
And thats why a LARGE chunk of the money was refunded to the NHS. So before anyone gets caught up in the project costing £12 billion, make sure you know that a large percentage of it was paid back. Quite why the full amount was paid up front in one large chunk is another matter entirely! :nutter:
There's more I'd like to say about some of the comments in this thread, but being an NHS IT employee (not a contractor ), I'd need to post it anonymously.
And thats why a LARGE chunk of the money was refunded to the NHS. So before anyone gets caught up in the project costing £12 billion, make sure you know that a large percentage of it was paid back. Quite why the full amount was paid up front in one large chunk is another matter entirely! :nutter:
There's more I'd like to say about some of the comments in this thread, but being an NHS IT employee (not a contractor
), I'd need to post it anonymously.
Is it true they're so skint that you'll be running Open Office soon?
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problem is they just adapt some other software, rather than starting a freshI'd have to disagree about why the IT project failed..it was because the company made promises of the software that just werent possible. The software was never going to work in the way that it was sold. yes, it was a "fantastic idea" but it was never going to be workable.
And thats why a LARGE chunk of the money was refunded to the NHS. So before anyone gets caught up in the project costing £12 billion, make sure you know that a large percentage of it was paid back. Quite why the full amount was paid up front in one large chunk is another matter entirely! :nutter:
There's more I'd like to say about some of the comments in this thread, but being an NHS IT employee (not a contractor
meaning it never runs nice
