Look how dodgy this auction is

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Ignore the item:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9861&item=4532431479&rd=1

It's worth about £7.5k to be honest and has a BIN of (apparently) £3.5k, hmmmm! Secondly that car with that reg plate sold a week or two ago (same title) to a different ebayer name than the one selling it.

The seller is actually based in France and has all French feedback. Nothing to do with cars or England. The seller says "contact me at this address as my ebay account address is full" ;)

I think that they have spoofed the ebay account (if that's the right word), copied the auction from the previous sale and now trying to rip people off....

What do you think?
 
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have you got the link to the original sale... perhaps we could send the buyer an email
 
Have you got the link to the original sale... perhaps we could send the buyer an email
 
i reckon you should report your suspicions to ebay cos i saw that on ebay last week 2!!
 
Dr P, already have done to see if the sale went through, at that point i just thought it odd that the same pics were being used - didn't notice location or email address etc.

I will contact ebay as soon as I feel like my worries are true. I thought you guys would give me advice to as if i was over-reading into it although the price instantly means I have no reservations.

Original auction:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9861&item=4529648422&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Applesei you will get into trouble searching for scenics ;) I am allowed :p
 
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I wasnt searching for one it was on the opening page!! :p

I am always on the lookout for frauds and i have had 2 removed from ebay cos of my actions and suspicions!!

I have already sent an email to ebay!! I sugegest others do the same!!
 
No feedback recieved for that last sale so maybe it didn't sell - Paul I've seen that auction before on here - did you post it and if so why, was their something strange about it before?

Ebay selling is very dodgy you can see how people lose thousands so quickly - anybody can set up a Paypal auction and get people to bid for a non-existant car. Then they get the money and naff off! Is there anything stopping them!? I know the chaps on the Skoda forum have been busy reporting ringers to ebay there have been 2 or 3 in the last week...
 
I am 99% sure I haven't posted that car on here before? I did that RX4 with a video walk through which impressed me.

The point with this auction that I don't get is the fact he hasn't put paypal on it? Normally you would expect that to be the case or at least "please do 20% deposit on car before coming to pay full value" type thing - no idea how this person expects to pull it off.

Feedback often takes weeks (if at all) so nothing to suggest the original sale didn't go through. I expect the first buyer is happy with the car and this seller just spoofed the auction and ebaying account.

I have asked him some questions and am interested to see his reply!
 
i reckon u did right bringing it up on ere, will show ppl who are unfamiliar with ebay at what can happen!!

I am expecting a reply by ebay tomorra regarding it, i will post up tomoz!
 
Strange - I swear that is not the first time I have seen that auction (the original one). I wonder where I saw it? It has to be on here I would have thought....
 
LMAO....this sort of reply is so familiar:

"Hello there,

I know that you have many choices on eBay and I appreciate that you contacted me.

Although I am registered in the UK, but I recently moved in Athens, Greece (where my family is from) and the car is being shipped from here. I made the auction for UK due to the fact it's UK version (right handed), meet all the UK standards, and its better to ship it where it belongs, that means UK, because here in Greece is very difficult to drive this type of vehicle, so i am trying to sell it as low as i can to complete the sale fast (my loss will be your gain). It still has UK registration, cos I didn't paid for Greece import taxes so it will be very easy for you to register the Renault in your country. You will have to pay just the taxes associated with registering it in UK. The car meets United Kindom DOT and EPA guidelines so there will be no problems regarding UK Customs policy on receiving the car.

The car is in a perfect cosmetic and engine conditions, and meticulously maintained. No damage, no scratches or dents, no hidden defects, the engine doesn't smoke, runs and sounds awesome, the engine has never been repaired or something like that, never been into accidents and it is as advertised .The car comes with log book, HPI cleared, it is free of encumbrances and liens. You will get from me the keys and all documents to register the item in UK, and also a bill of sale in your name and signed by me.

If the car is not how i described it, i will offer a full refund, upon the return of the item in original condition (return postage at my expense). It will be insured during transportation and will be delivered at your front door in maximum one week. Final price is #3,500.00 (this price includes the shipping and insurance). I will have ebay to contact you with the transaction details in order to buy under their PURCHASE PROTECTION & REFUND PLAN.

I will wait your email
Respectfully,
Jason"

Now, firstly:

The ebay account is registered in France
I doubt I would need to register it here because it's a British car
The car is a one off if the original ebay auction believed and it was sold to somebody else last week
I don't know why it's difficult in Greece to drive a Scenic? lol
I am glad I will get the keys


Does the twit seriously think people will hand money over? Do people honestly do it?
 
But hang on he's not asking for paypal so how can it be a scam if he accepts cash?
 
He hasn't told me payment methods yet, I expect WU or paypal to be the answer if i ask. i wonder if he would give me a copy of the HPi? ;)
 
Indeed. Ask then I guess and you'll have your definative answer.
 
A sucess, I guess. Nice one Paul but I don't suppose it'll put him off.
 
I only did it because i hated the spoiler ;) jk

I have the guy's address still of course....just so difficult to abuse it.
 
LMAO:

Just got an email from the guy: Sorry, from ebay ;)

Thank you for contacting eBay's Customer Support team!


We verified all the details of this transaction and we concluded that they are accurate. Our verifications confirm seller's contact info and his ability to deliver the merchandise advertised on our site. There is a limited group of sellers on ebay which we can recommend an matderenty is one of them. Please follow our instructions to complete the transaction safely.

Seller: matderenty ([email protected])
Seller information: Jason Sines, Michalacopoulou 50, Athens 11528, Greece
Current location: Greece
Item title: 2002 RENAULT MEGANE SCENIC DYNAMIQUE PLUS with EXTRAS

Total price : £3,500.00

Shipping:Samskip insured
Status: Ready to ship
Payment: Western Union
Status: Payment pending

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2. eBay accepts the transaction and offers purchase protection to the buyer (if the transaction is declined, no further action is required from either the buyer or the seller);
3.Buyer will send a scan copy of westernunion receipt at fax number 001-310-388-5258.We are going to notify the seller that the payment has been made and the seller has three business days to send the buyer and eBay the tracking number of the shipment. If no tracking number is provided, a full refund is immediately sent to the buyer;
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Payment must be sent by: Western Union Money Transfer
Next step to be taken: The buyer must send the payment to the seller

It is recommended to send the payment as soon as possible, because your purchase protection is valid for 90 days only. Sending the payment by any other method of payment will void this transaction and your right to refund.

Payment instructions:

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Then we’ll send the seller a payment confirmation.Within 3 business days, you will receive the tracking number for your merchandise.

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The account is managed by eBay's SquareTrade center. This transaction is supervised by eBay's SafeHarbor team.

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3. You may buy and sell with confidence in all transactions with this eBay member.
4. Any complaints must be filed within 90 days from the verification date.


Note: The seller has sent a separate email to confirm this sale.This eBay notice was sent to you from Ebay SafeHarbor team with the full support of the SquareTrade center.



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Hmmm...

http://www.ebay-tradesafe.com/

The police should take action....

Got the full email headers if anybody is interested.
 
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