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Re: 2013 Panda iPhone and AUX input

Ok, so I've fully figured out how to get aux in working on my Fiat Panda 2012 62 plate with bog standard Fiat 139 radio. I've even managed to go one step further, and get bluetooth integrated. I don't have blue & me.

I did it by searching around, bravely shorting pins together, and pretty much following electronics logic.

Firstly - aux in.
You can get a aux in cable on ebay that will connect to the pins
CDC-R
CDC-GND
CDC-L
And give you a 3.5mm stereo connector.

But if there are only 3 terminals populated on the CD player side this will not work on it's own.

On the sticker on top of the radio, not all of the pins are labelled.

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1 Pre Out Rear Left
2 Pre Out Rear Right
3 Pre Out Ground
4 Pre Out Front Left
5 Pre Out Front Right
6 Amp Switch +12v
7 Telephone In +
8 Telephone In -
9 Radio Mute
10 Switch Supply +12v
11 Remote Control
12 RC Ground
13 Cd Changer Data In
14 Cd Changer Data Out
15 Permanent 12v
16 Switched 12v
17 Bus Ground
18 Aux In Ground
19 Aux In Left
20 Aux In Right
defines a whole load more pins. If you short pins 13 and 14 together (Data IN and Data OUT), then when you press the media button on the radio, you will get 'AUX' displayed, and the input from pins 18,19,20 is played. All the frustrating posts saying you've just got to power off the engine, then plug it in, start it up etc are a waste of time. I tested this theory with a piece of wire:


You need to short some pins otherwise you will not get the aux displayed.


Secondly - power:
Pin 17 is ground
Pin 16 is switched 12V (or switched 14V if you go by the label)
These can be used to power a 12V adaptor which switches on when the radio turns on. I used this to power my bluetooth adaptor.


Shopping list:
  • Aux in connector for fiat. Make sure it is the blue connector with 8 pins, not the yellow one. e.g.
    (url removed)
  • Another connector for fiat, you'll chop this up just to use the pins, could buy two of the same one if you want. In total you'll need 4 spare pins (or just 2 if you don't need 12V power).
  • Himbox HB01 or equivalent bluetooth adaptor and a 12V adaptor, e.g.
    (url removed)
  • female-female 3.5mm stereo jack

Instructions:
  1. Take your spare plug, cut it down or use whatever method you are comfortable with to get the pins out.
  2. Solder a short wire to join two of the spare pins together. Not too short, at least 50mm.
  3. Insert the short wire to join the two pins as shown.
  4. Solder new short wires onto pins 17 and 16 (use fairly thick wire)
  5. Insert into the plug as shown.
  6. You now have a short loop, a 3.5mm plug cable, and two flying leads.
    Disassemble the 12V adaptor that came with the HB01.
  7. Solder the +12V (red in my case) to the tip connection point, and the 0V wire (pink) to the side connection point.
  8. Clip the sides back on and tape it up.
  9. Plug in the USB connector.
    The full assembly should look like this:

  10. Use the 3.5mm female-female connector to connect the two 3.5mm plugs together. (hadn't arrived when I took the photo).
  11. Next remove your radio and plug the new assembly in. You might need to play around with the free cable lengths as there isn't much space behind the radio.
  12. Route the bluetooth controller round to wherever you want it, e.g. round to the steering column like this:

  13. Turn on the radio. You should see the HB01 light up.
  14. Press the media button on the radio. You should see 'AUX' on the display.
  15. Follow the pairing instructions, and listen for the messages from the HB01.
You now have bluetooth in your fiat panda. You have your 12V socket still free and the only thing extra showing is the bluetooth control module.


You can:
  • press the HB01 main button for ~1 second to activate siri on iphone.
  • Press the HB01 main button briefly for start/stop audio playback
  • Make and receive phone calls using the HB01's built in microphone and the car speakers.

Nothing to charge up, no FM tuning nonsense, minimal wiring/clutter on display.

Have fun!
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Re: 2013 Panda iPhone and AUX input

Newbie here.

Just bought a new panda without the USB blue & me thingy.

As a person who is very much an amateur in these things, i think i would struggle to mess around with the cables at the back. Would it be possible to somehow fit a 3.5mm jack (with a cable to a usb port) to the back of the stereo and then plug in a Bluetooth receiver to the USB? That way the phone could connect to the device without an extra cable.
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Re: 2013 Panda iPhone and AUX input

Does anyone know if this will be compatible with a 2012 Fiat Punto? I believe I have the Delphi radio (all black gloss) but it has no USB, AUX or Bluetooth.
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Re: 2013 Panda iPhone and AUX input

Thanks to this thread (I should, we'll find out this weekend) be in the position to upgrade our soon to be purchased Panda's headunit to support bluetooth for the grand total of 20 thanks to eBay (25 if you include the Airframe+ to clip the phone to the vent). I may be back with further questions (or if I find a neat way to do anything I'll add some photos).

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Re: 2013 Panda iPhone and AUX input

Just to update (and provide links for anyone in the market to do this) it was a doddle to do (aside from the snug fit of the stereo even with keys it was a bit of an effort to remove from its enclosure). Radio poped out, cable installed and routed down behind the gearbox/glovebox side and then routed round the groove in the gear box column to come out at the front of the gearbox. Then connected the bluetooth reciver to the aux cable and pressed Media and hey presto AUX and bluetooth sucessfully paried and playing.

I got both items from ebay, AUX (item ID 201638690370) and Bluetooth (item ID 262107076613).
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Just added an aux connection to my 2013 Panda Pop using the instructions above - brilliant step by step instructions and pics - thanks!
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Re: 2013 Panda iPhone and AUX input

If anyone is needing parts to do the job check out this post.
http://www.fiatforum.com/panda-iii/3...ml#post3550092
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Quote Originally Posted by SimonWH View Post
Fitting the Media Adapter is very straight forward, getting the radio out is the hardest part, but you also need to swap over a couple of leads in one of the connectors to make it compatible with the 2012 model Panda.


As the new Panda Radio only has two holes for the release keys (instead of the usual 4) you'll need to bend the keys straight-ish.



The keys only need to be inserted about an inch to release the lugs but you don't have much purchase on anything to pull the radio out so it is a bit fiddly



After a bit of wiggling and no small amount of cursing the radio comes out of the slot



It will come out just far enough to rest on the gear stick



For those that are interested in these things, this is the label on the 2013 model Panda CD player



The adapter connector fits in the top right slot of this socket on the back of the radio



It comes out of the box with the VIOLET and GREEN wires in this position. These need to be swapped over to be compatible with the Panda radio. ON ONE END ONLY, do not swap them over on both ends of the wiring



With a pair of pliers just pull them out and swap them over. They are in VERY tightly. Do not yank them out but grip firmly and pull with steady force, they'll come out eventually. When you swap them over make sure they go back the correct way around, they must align with the pins on the back of the radio. Look at the other connectors to see which way round they go



It just clicks into place



I chose to test it before fitting it all back in place. It worked straight away. Just press the MEDIA button to see 'External Source'



The iPhone plugs into the USB socket using any compatible lead. It also charges the phone at the same time (not tested it with an iPad yet). Or you can plug it into the AUX socket with a standard phono lead.



Next job is to thread the wire down the back of the dashboard. There is plenty of room to get your hands in and fish it out from underneath the dashboard and route it to wherever you're going to place the adapter



the adapter comes with sticky velcro tabs so allowing you to place it anywhere convenient. The instruction manual details a method for placing is INSIDE the glovebox but I figured that would be inconvenient and the glovebox lid wouldn't fit very snuggly once closed



I chose to stick mine on the side of the centre console under the dash (see below) it is not as neat and hidden as I'd like but it makes it easier to plug things in and means I wont be trapping the USB cable in the glovebox lid.



The all important end result! You now have an EXTERNAL SOURCE for music on the move. Rock On!!



In the attachments below is a PDF of the fitting manual if you need it.


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I want to buy this.
Does this work with any USB stick or Android phones?

Thanks!
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Hi.
The thread is quite old and when I looked for the device it was unlisted, so may be out of production.

If someone does find it please put a link up.
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Hi.
The thread is quite old and when I looked for the device it was unlisted, so may be out of production.

If someone does find it please put a link up.
My local fiat dealer can order it for 135 euros.
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