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Hey guys have a Grande punto 1.4 tjet 2009.

I am looking to do a timing belt and water pump replacement early next year and was going to go to the dealership for this. I have since had people suggest I try do water pump myself to save me some money and uo muly skills.

I just wanted to know if anyone has any insight on hiw to change on a tjet. Any tips or suggestions people think I should or should not do.

Basically I hear 'timing belt' and 'water pump' I do think big jobs, but I look to consider myself able and a willing learner that I would love to do these jobs just for the want of wanting to learn. But I'm also a realistic. So any info, opinions, suggestions is welcome.

So thanks again.
 
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Not the best pics but some type of visual reference to my working area and how my car setup looks
 
I don't know about your car, but on some marques you have to 'lock' the engine to prevent the camshaft from accidentally being turned.

Having said that, changing a timing belt is pretty straight forward.

I can't see any reason why you would have undue difficulty changing a water pump. Just take your time and don't rush the job.

Somebody with a TJet is bound to write in and tell you exactly.
 
glenn2602 said:
I don't know about your car, but on some marques you have to 'lock' the engine to prevent the camshaft from accidentally being turned.

Having said that, changing a timing belt is pretty straight forward.

I can't see any reason why you would have undue difficulty changing a water pump. Just take your time and don't rush the job.

Somebody with a TJet is bound to write in and tell you exactly.
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Yeah with regards to timing belt I think I'm going to leave that to pros as I know it can lead to mad engine damage if not done wrong. But a water pump I feel I could with some guidance so hoping people can chip in. Thanks again
 
Timing belt has to come off to access water pump AFAIK, you'd do both at the same time.

Tools are needed to lock the cams on the T-Jet hence I bought the bits and took mine to a local garage who acquired the tools for the job. I've done belts and chains on more agricultural engines but didn't fancy attempting on the T-Jet. Cost me approx £180 in labour I think, that was timing belt and tensioner, pump, coolant flush and refill and aux belt. I supplied all parts.

Cheers

Ben
 
If you've had no experience in changing a timing belt, I would leave it to the Professionals

The earlier punto engines were a doddle to do as there wasn't much to go wrong, meaning anyone with a little "spanner" experience could give it a go without worrying too much if it went wrong. The newer engines fitted in the Grande Puntos are an interference engine meaning if you cock up the timing, valve damage will end up as a result. That and some of these engines now have variators fitted meaning you absolutely HAVE TO HAVE the timing lockout tools available before you start the job.
 
Ok thanks for the advice I thought I would be able to do water pump separately and try save there. Looks like I have my answer. Thanks everyone. I may try Ben route and by parts
 
You'll need water pump, timing belt and tensioner, 3l of paraflu up and same of distilled water and as it will have to come off anyway, you may as well put a new aux belt on.

I got all bits from shop 4 parts including paraflu, I don't know that they are the cheapest but they had all other bits for service in stock, I bought all from them for convenience.
I use all genuine bits but gates belts and tensioners have served me well in the past.

Check with garage you intend to use that they will fit supplied parts and get quotes from a few places. Some places wanted double what I paid.

They need the tools, ask to see them before you hand over keys garage I used had to borrow them from elsewhere as they didn't have them.

Cheers

Ben
 
Ben D said:
You'll need water pump, timing belt and tensioner, 3l of paraflu up and same of distilled water and as it will have to come off anyway, you may as well put a new aux belt on.

I got all bits from shop 4 parts including paraflu, I don't know that they are the cheapest but they had all other bits for service in stock, I bought all from them for convenience.
I use all genuine bits but gates belts and tensioners have served me well in the past.

Check with garage you intend to use that they will fit supplied parts and get quotes from a few places. Some places wanted double what I paid.

They need the tools, ask to see them before you hand over keys garage I used had to borrow them from elsewhere as they didn't have them.

Cheers

Ben
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Cheers for that Ben I will get them from shop 4 parts. When u say they will need tools do you know what tools so I can check they have them all once I arrive / on phone
 
Ben D said:
The set I saw was in a red metal box, Google the tools and you'll get a picture


Cheers

Ben
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Thanks again Ben. Last thing and I'll leave you be lol. 1) First picture - thus is the timing belt tool I found does it match what you saw. 2) I've looked into timing belt kits and is picture too correct just a wafer pump, tensioner and belt. None of the kits seem to have an idler in them?

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everson38 said:
Thanks again Ben. Last thing and I'll leave you be lol. 1) First picture - thus is the timing belt tool I found does it match what you saw. 2) I've looked into timing belt kits and is picture too correct just a wafer pump, tensioner and belt. None of the kits seem to have an idler in them?

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Don't no what that second pic of a snorlax is about but it's meant to be this pic: Screenshot_2017-09-26-23-43-10.png
 
Hey guys going back into an old post so not to start a new one. I'm getting my timing belt and water pump etc done in next few weeks. Is there anything I can check once my car is done, once I've got it back home or around the corner lol to ensure this has been done correctly etc. As this isn't a problem that can really afford to 'happen later' so if there is anything I can check or inspect after the works done to give myself the green light and not need to worry days on end after the job is completed.

Thanks
 
Tell them to leave the old bits in the boot. If it runs badly once you get it back, then you know it's not been done properly. Ask to see the tools before you hand over the keys, until I insisted on the garage getting the tools they were going to do without...

Cheers
 
Hey Guys. So I had my timing belt / water pump and tensioner I belive the final pulley is. Not sure if I'm being paranoid but it sounds a bit, only as what I can describe as dry / whiney when you pressure on the accelerator. Seems to only do this when set off / give it gas. Idling it sounds fine and I recorded a before and after and it sounds the same. But sods law I've never recorded my engine whilst giving it throttle so not sure if I am being paranoid or not? Have a look at videos and let me no your thoughts.
 
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The above video is me recording engine after the belt was done that day.

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This one was recorded today after about a week after it being done.
 
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