Technical Cambelt

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Technical Cambelt

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Hi Guys,

My timing belt has never been done at 49000 miles and 9 years old so getting it done next week by a local main dealer... is there anything i need to worry about? and is £318 okay inc VAT, tensioners and water pump?

Cheers.
 
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Also, if he doesn't do the phonic wheel relearn, will this process work?

That sounds the same as mine which is also a 1.2, different error codes came up after they were cleared. I found two problems, my issues were:
1. Air leak on the intake. Both the small pipe from the airbox to the manifold and the rubber seal between the airbox and the throttle body were split and had to be replaced.
2. The cambelt had been replaced (about 70k miles) and a phoenic wheel learn was needed (this sorted the engine management light and bad running at motorway speeds). If I remember right you have to do the following:
i. With a warm engine.
ii. Rev up to 5,000rpm hold for 3 seconds.
iii. Let it drop down to idle.
iv. Rev to 5,000rpm hold for 3 seconds.
v. Drop to idle.
vi. Rev to 5,000rpm hold for 3 seconds.
vii. Drop to idle.
viii. Switch right off and wait a few moments.
Then you're done.

Hopefully one of the resident experts will drop by to confirm my memory of the sequence above
 
Given that sequence is the phoenic learn for a 1.2 then it should.

You won't necessarily need that, it depends on the stretch in your old belt, mine had done too many miles!
 
Plus your quote is a bit expensive, any reason for going main dealer?

Where abouts are you based?

Going to main dealer because they quoted much cheaper than any indie around me, phoned several and none really wanted the job as they said they would need to buy specialist tools in... obviously the dealer will have these. Also, a couple of indies that did give me a quote where either too expensive even compared to dealer or said they would not guarantee the work due to needing certain cam locking tools...
 
Given that sequence is the phoenic learn for a 1.2 then it should.

You won't necessarily need that, it depends on the stretch in your old belt, mine had done too many miles!

I suspect i might as the car is 9 years old with no record of it ever being done and its at 49k. don't want the car going wrong as i can't afford an engine rebuild and would much rather get the problem sorted before it happens haha! :)
 
I bought a 1.2 of about the same vintage for my daughter recently. No history, so we changed the cam belt, tensioner and water pump as a precautionary measure. £70 for belt, tensioner and water pump from local motor factor (i.e. not genuine parts). Did it as a DIY job. Yes, there are various locking plates required, but they're possible to make in an hour or so with typical DIY equipment. I didn't need to do the phonic re-learn. As cam belts go, it's not one of the more difficult ones.
 
That's a very reasonable, even good price imo. About 70-100 for a good kit incl a waterpump and 2-3 hours labour of which the cost varies much according to where in the UK: London and Hartlepool are completely different.

Even if 10-20% more than indies ( althoug I note you experienced the opposite as expected) , I would go to a reasonable main dealer too. They have the xperience and do this engine al the time. In addition they may give you another update such as a software one for free. And if still something goes wrong, it's going to be easier to get compo and corrections.

Having said that, mine is a 57 1.2 and also still on the original belt with 22k on the clock.
 
Hi all, thanks for your advice. I failed to mention mine is a 1.4 8v but I don't know if this makes much difference as apparently the design is similar? Brigitebardot, they have offered to do the recall work involving the euro ncap rating and a softWare update free of charge at the same time as you suggested.
 
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