Technical £410 for a new clutch??

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Technical £410 for a new clutch??

GeorgeFiatGP

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I have the 1.3 75bhp diesel GP and clutch is on its way out so I've done the usual, ringing round the local garages including a 'Mr Clutch' branch and the cheapest that has come back is £410, the others around the £440 mark?!? Is this roughly what you guys have paid? Is the job that tricky as I've seen clutch kits available for between £50 and £90!

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Yes I'll be paying someone else it's just wasn't expecting it to be that pricey if I'm honest
 
One my old cars was a dual flywheel clutch (think common on a diesel). Only just got the car and dealers said usually around a grand mark for them to do it. Had to dismount the engine to get to it they said :-( luckily got it done for free as was less than 30 days since got the car.

£410 isn't to bad compared to what heard people pay on other cars. It does seem a lot but its getting that way where most cars cost a small fortune to get things changed.
 
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One my old cars was a dual flywheel clutch (think common on a diesel). Only just got the car and dealers said usually around a grand mark for them to do it. Had to dismount the engine to get to it they said :-( luckily got it done for free as was less than 30 days since got the car.

£410 isn't to bad compared to what heard people pay on other cars. It does seem a lot but its getting that way where most cars cost a small fortune to get things changed.

Ouch!! lucky it happened within them 30 days then mate! Yep completely agree, everything is going down the route of garage work rather than home job now!! Car is on 93,000 miles anyway so its done pretty good!
 
One my old cars was a dual flywheel clutch (think common on a diesel). Only just got the car and dealers said usually around a grand mark for them to do it. Had to dismount the engine to get to it they said :-( luckily got it done for free as was less than 30 days since got the car.

£410 isn't to bad compared to what heard people pay on other cars. It does seem a lot but its getting that way where most cars cost a small fortune to get things changed.

Long gone are the days or RWD cars with cable clutches I'm afraid where you could swap out the clutch in an hour - but hey that's progress for you!
 
Just make sure they fit a 3 part clutch made by LUK. Price is around the £100-115. So shop around. You could always buy the part yourself and ask the garage to fit it. But those quotes are about right.
 
Where abouts in the country are you George?


I had the clutch on my 75HP changed shortly after I bought it. From memory the clutch kit was around the 100 mark. Labour was nowhere near 300, but I do get mates rates where I had it done. I don't remember exactly what it cost overall as I don't get invoices issued for work carried out but circa 250 total I think in my case.


Given that I helped through the process, the only thing I would say is that the gearbox does weight a fair bit, but other than that nothing was particularly hard to do, a few bits need removing from the top of the engine for access but that's it.


The 75HP doesn't have a dual mass flywheel, so the cost should be less than a 90HP in both parts and labour. Perhaps those companies quoting are thinking they will have to replace the flywheel too?!?!?


In my case I was struggling to find a couple of gears and reverse would always crunch going in. It turned out to be a badly assembled (not greased) release bearing which was catching on the input shaft and hitting the pressure plate at an angle. I had half of the pressure plate splines deformed as a result and the pressure plate was not moving fully out to disengage, the pedal was also quite heavy as a result.


Once the box was out, I cleaned the flywheel with brake cleaner, the input shaft as well and greased the latter, then all was reassembled. Clutch pedal and selector feel was like new. Happy days since then.


If you are not too far from the Bucks area, I can put you in touch with someone who can do the job for reasonable money and I would expect much cheaper than Mr Clutch.


Humour
 
Where abouts in the country are you George?


I had the clutch on my 75HP changed shortly after I bought it. From memory the clutch kit was around the 100 mark. Labour was nowhere near 300, but I do get mates rates where I had it done. I don't remember exactly what it cost overall as I don't get invoices issued for work carried out but circa 250 total I think in my case.


Given that I helped through the process, the only thing I would say is that the gearbox does weight a fair bit, but other than that nothing was particularly hard to do, a few bits need removing from the top of the engine for access but that's it.


The 75HP doesn't have a dual mass flywheel, so the cost should be less than a 90HP in both parts and labour. Perhaps those companies quoting are thinking they will have to replace the flywheel too?!?!?


In my case I was struggling to find a couple of gears and reverse would always crunch going in. It turned out to be a badly assembled (not greased) release bearing which was catching on the input shaft and hitting the pressure plate at an angle. I had half of the pressure plate splines deformed as a result and the pressure plate was not moving fully out to disengage, the pedal was also quite heavy as a result.


Once the box was out, I cleaned the flywheel with brake cleaner, the input shaft as well and greased the latter, then all was reassembled. Clutch pedal and selector feel was like new. Happy days since then.


If you are not too far from the Bucks area, I can put you in touch with someone who can do the job for reasonable money and I would expect much cheaper than Mr Clutch.


Humour

Just what I was thinking, the 75hp has a single-mass flywheel which should make it easier and cheaper. I'm dreading the day my 90hp's clutch goes!
 
Cadabena that plus a few other reasons is why I went with the slightly more agricultural 75HP variant :D


With that said, once the box is out (required for clutch anyway) the flywheel is exposed, so in terms of labour it shouldn't add more than 15-20 minutes to the job to replace. The cost of the new flywheel is what will add to the cost imo.


Might be worth checking what the full kit sells for on the internet, that way you can budget for the parts and labour over time ;)


The problem for me with all of these mechanical tasks is that labour is charged at a pretty heft rate, yet most mechanics will just slap parts on with no prep and no cleaning, as result massively increasing the risk of the new parts failing in short order. Cleaning the existing flywheel from the amount of dust that gathers in there along with the input shaft is a tiny little bit more work but on the evidence of mine this wasn't done at all :mad:


If I was doing that type of job at a random garage I would insist on being there whilst the job is being done to observe reassembly and negotiate in the price for the assembly to be prepped properly and greased as required. If any back talk comes my way, I would walk and that's it.


Humour
 
I just had a refurbed gearbox and new clutch fitted to my 1.4 petrol gp last week all parts and labour totalled 475 so 410 for just the clutch seems steep to me. I understand the labour is the same for gearbox or clutch install. Clutch and labour on my invoice came to 200 gearbox cost me 275.
 
I read online that the 6 speed 1.3 diesel has a DMF, and the 5 speed does not.
Have a friend with an Astra 1.3 CTDI (pretty much the same engine) and a 6 speed gearbox, and got a quote for a clutch and flywheel kit of €650, so it aint cheap. Did you get sorted in the end?
 
Pretty sure all GP diesels have DMF as I think even some of the petrol variants do too.

It shouldn't be an issue unless it's needing replacing, I'd personally leave the DMF if it was within tolerances as I've had my car from low miles and know it hasn't been abused.

I helped a friend dad on a lazy Saturday do the clutch on his cdti corsa D and it was relatively straight forward.. Didn't have to drop the subframe or anything
 
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