General Thinking of buying a Grande Punto

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General Thinking of buying a Grande Punto

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I am thinking of buying a grande punto. I am currently learning to drive in a Fiat 500 and would quite like a punto once I have passed but are they really as bad as some reviews make out? The things I am worried about is the MPG, electrical issues and the brakes being over sensitive. I have found two local to me a 09 1.4 GP (active sport?) with a Panoramic sunroof with 55k and FSH and a 06 1.2 active with 53k and no mention of service history. The active is over 1k cheaper than the GP but with the cost of insurance I would prefer not to pay too much.
 
Dan.

I'll no doubt get shot down here, the opinion below is from my own experiences and in no way reflects the opinions of satisfied owners.

30 odd years ago, we used to laugh at Fiat's having awful electrics, awful mechanicals and body parts which would rot in the blink of an eye.

A close personal friend of mine had 2 different models, both of which gave nothing but grief.
I swore that i'd never buy a Fiat while ever the was a hole in my backside.

30 odd years later, I was a little reserved when my daughter decided that she wanted a GP, however , i considered that things change.
So we spent the best part of a month looking, test driving and eventually decided on a 2007 1.4, 16v Sporting.

Apart from the corrosion issue, i'm happy to state that in 30 odd years lapse, Fiat still haven't got it right. Ours had both electrical and mechanical problems, one after the other.
It was a never ending cycle for 14 months, fixing this, fixing that.
Granted, some of the issues were indeed very minor, however, every time the phone rang, i was expecting another problem.

If you're going to buy one, buy it from someone you know, or from a very reputable garage with a comprehensive warranty.
If it's reg number is NV07 HJX, steer well clear.


In another 30 odd years, I'll be dead and buried, so I guess i won't have to make the same mistake.
 
You'll get different opinions from all car owners regardless of make or model

Persoanlly my punto has been the most relaible car I have ever had. Not put a foot wrong for the last 40000 miles, its coming up to doing 80000 miles and its pretty faultless.

Yes the electrics are a bit poor, sometimes I have to knock on the side of my headlight to get it to light up and hot the heater controls to get the bulbs behind to light up but mechanically its spot on. My first few cars were corsas and they had more gremlins than the movie gremlins. Yet i'm sure there are loads of people with older corsas where nothing has gone wrong.

In short, my punto is fine as are others, some puntos are not :/
 
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You'll get different opinions from all car owners regardless of make or model

Persoanlly my punto has been the most relaible car I have ever had. Not put a foot wrong for the last 40000 miles, its coming up to doing 80000 miles and its pretty faultless.

Yes the electrics are a bit poor, sometimes I have to knock on the side of my headlight to get it to light up and hot the heater controls to get the bulbs behind to light up but mechanically its spot on. My first few cars were corsas and they had more gremlins than the movie gremlins. Yet i'm sure there are loads of people with older corsas where nothing has gone wrong.

In short, my punto is fine as are others, some puntos are not :/

This is true, they arent bad cars but like any car some have their issues.

I have a 2009 Tjet which is currently on 63000 miles.

The engine is great, other mechanicals not so much. Suspension parts wear far too quickly and lots of trim is flimsy.

Mine appears to have developed a slight leak into the rear passenger side footwell recently as well.

They are no worse than other cars of similar age and price but make sure you check everything on the fault stickies in depth before buying one
 
This is true, they arent bad cars but like any car some have their issues.

I have a 2009 Tjet which is currently on 63000 miles.

The engine is great, other mechanicals not so much. Suspension parts wear far too quickly and lots of trim is flimsy.

Mine appears to have developed a slight leak into the rear passenger side footwell recently as well.

They are no worse than other cars of similar age and price but make sure you check everything on the fault stickies in depth before buying one
I agree , engine is reliable apart from my altinator battery and head gasket going, apart from that I wouldn't imagine you would get something as nice for your first car that's the same age or price
 
Content t-jet owner here, owned for three and a half years and only had minor niggles. Some models seem to be better than others, the t-jet seems to be one of the best and the 1.9 m-jet one of the worst.
I've not driven a basic Grande but my brakes aren't over-servoed, the t-jet does have different calipers though.
 
Buying any 5+ year old car is a gamble. If you check everything thoroughly then you should be ok with any car. It's luck of the draw really. The "reputable" brands have their issues too, I speak from experience.
 
Buying any 5+ year old car is a gamble. If you check everything thoroughly then you should be ok with any car. It's luck of the draw really. The "reputable" brands have their issues too, I speak from experience.

Agreed, we have 2 14 plate X5's at work which have been back to the dealers to have bits fixed that you would not expect to fail on such a new 'prestige' motor.

All cars have their issues
 
Content t-jet owner here, owned for three and a half years and only had minor niggles. Some models seem to be better than others, the t-jet seems to be one of the best and the 1.9 m-jet one of the worst.
I've not driven a basic Grande but my brakes aren't over-servoed, the t-jet does have different calipers though.

Where would you put the 1.4 Active Sport? A car I'm looking in to but 50/50 atm. It's either that or a Corsa D for me.. confused.
Or if I can find one cheap, a Focus MK 2.
 
Where would you put the 1.4 Active Sport? A car I'm looking in to but 50/50 atm. It's either that or a Corsa D for me.. confused.

Or if I can find one cheap, a Focus MK 2.


Focus MK2 would be far more reliable and far better to drive than the GP.

The GP is getting on now and throwing up a number of problems for owners. My GP proved unreliable for me with a number of failures, this was a shock after coming from a MK1 Focus that was faultless.
 
Focus MK2 would be far more reliable and far better to drive than the GP.

The GP is getting on now and throwing up a number of problems for owners. My GP proved unreliable for me with a number of failures, this was a shock after coming from a MK1 Focus that was faultless.

If you are thinking of buying a Ford make sure its a decent spec one.

In my experience there is a huge difference in quality between poverty spec and top spec Fords.

Avoid basic spec and 1.6 diesels.
 
Where would you put the 1.4 Active Sport? A car I'm looking in to but 50/50 atm. It's either that or a Corsa D for me.. confused.
Or if I can find one cheap, a Focus MK 2.

The active sport would more than likely have the 1.2 8v/1.4 8v FIRE engine which are known for their good reliability (y)
 
I bought a Punto Grande Active new in late 2010. It has not been a success story! I have found the car cheaply made and often suffers from poor design. ...just try changing a headlamp bulb! I had a clutch thrust washer issue not long after purchase, poorly fitting doors, rear door handles that you feel will come off in your hand, engine breather hoses failing (so fumes come inside the car) and recently both rear window 'regulators' (or winders as we would call them) have failed and Fiat's quote to replace them? £525!!! The owner's manual is incredibly poorly written (English version) and hard to follow. The car has probably lost 70% of its re-sale value in 4.5 years so one good feature of the Punto might be that it should be easy to pick up a cheap one! I quite like the styling and ride but wouldn't buy another! The VW Polo was just out of my budget when I bought my Punto but really wish it was the car that I owned now! ...stick with your 500, at least they look cool!
 
I bought a Punto Grande Active new in late 2010. It has not been a success story! I have found the car cheaply made and often suffers from poor design. ...just try changing a headlamp bulb! I had a clutch thrust washer issue not long after purchase, poorly fitting doors, rear door handles that you feel will come off in your hand, engine breather hoses failing (so fumes come inside the car) and recently both rear window 'regulators' (or winders as we would call them) have failed and Fiat's quote to replace them? £525!!! The owner's manual is incredibly poorly written (English version) and hard to follow. The car has probably lost 70% of its re-sale value in 4.5 years so one good feature of the Punto might be that it should be easy to pick up a cheap one! I quite like the styling and ride but wouldn't buy another! The VW Polo was just out of my budget when I bought my Punto but really wish it was the car that I owned now! ...stick with your 500, at least they look cool!


I've had a 2010 Grande Punto for two and a half years now, and fair enough there have been a couple of electrical issues but for the most part it's never missed a beat: the interior's great, it's really comfortable, stunning to look at, fun to drive, pretty nippy, very well-equipped for its spec, spacious, robust, incredibly safe, really practical with a big boot and low fuel consumption, plus the insurance is very well priced and the running costs are low, which should be the single fundamental attraction for a first-car buyer; plus it's easy to drive, and the clutch, brakes and steering are comfortably light.

The GP doesn't necessarily have the build quality of a Volkswagen Jetta, but when you consider it's in the same kind of price range as a lower-spec Citroen C1, you would genuinely have to be mad to buy something else. Personally I've found the general design to be quite inspired (with a few daft Italian features like the scuttle draining on the alternator - a simple fix) and I've never struggled to change a light bulb on mine - frankly if you have, you probably shouldn't be driving anything larger and more powerful than a golf cart :p People forget that the good significantly outweighs the bad :)

Engine breather hoses are a serviceable item like your exhaust, and a cheap and easy swap. If you happen to be unlucky and get a car with dodgey rear window winders, the solution is about £30 worth of parts and a couple of hours work. I've never even used the manual, but it's hardly a good reason for not buying a car. They do depreciate quite quickly to a point, which as you said is probably a very good thing for a first-car buyer.

Best first car out there in my opinion, just make sure you buy a good 1.4 8V and don't overspend. Of course people on a car forum are going to congregate and whine about their problems, it's not a very good representative of the entire population - they should've checked the car out more thoroughly in the first place. The GP is much better looking than a 500, more practical, plus if you choose one over the other they'll probably have the same (if not worse) problem set. Go for as late a model as possible, as they'll have tweaks that weren't on the earliest Grande Puntos, and aside from that stick to the general rules for buying used cars.

Rant over, sorry about that :D I'd regard the opinions of those who are satisfied with their cars in better light myself, although don't ignore the others of course - just learn from them :) Make absolutely sure you buy a good car though, as the lemons can be bad (like, really bad, as we've seen). Look after it and it'll look after you :D
 
I bought a Punto Grande Active new in late 2010. It has not been a success story! I have found the car cheaply made and often suffers from poor design. ...just try changing a headlamp bulb!

I agree, changing the headlights bulbs are a real ball ache! Not the end of the world though and not something you have to do every 5 minutes but again i do agree its a pain!

I had a clutch thrust washer issue not long after purchase, poorly fitting doors, rear door handles that you feel will come off in your hand, engine breather hoses failing (so fumes come inside the car) and recently both rear window 'regulators' (or winders as we would call them) have failed and Fiat's quote to replace them? £525!!!

Cant say i've ever had any trouble with the clutch myself. The doors seem ok and my rear window handles are also ok but I have heard of many other people having issues. My rear door handles feel like they are going to come off in the hand yes, this is another common fault. The breather hose is also a common fault but its a pretty easy fix, even more so for your mechanic

This goes back to my last argument, some puntos like all cars have problems but not all suffer from these issues

The owner's manual is incredibly poorly written (English version) and hard to follow.

Yep, again completley agree, however in a strange way I quite like this. Its seems like fiat just used babelfish to translate the italian manual, all the disgrams are for left hand drive and some of the sections just dont apply to the UK spec (IE: Changing fuses in the cabin is completely different for the UK spec than the italian but the manual still has instructions for LHD!)

However I do like this, just seems to be some italian charm. I know that doesnt make sense :D

The car has probably lost 70% of its re-sale value in 4.5 years so one good feature of the Punto might be that it should be easy to pick up a cheap one! I quite like the styling and ride but wouldn't buy another! The VW Polo was just out of my budget when I bought my Punto but really wish it was the car that I owned now! ...stick with your 500, at least they look cool!

70% seems about right, seems about right for most cars after nearly 4 years. I bought my punto when it was 4 years old and it had lost about 70% of its original value which is what I expected to pay.

You want a reliable car so you want a VW? Thats madness. Despite what people may say VWs are **** poor when it comes to reliability. SEAT (Part of VW) seem to be ok though

On a different more positve VW note, the new Polo GTI is freaking stunning!

(sorry if I came across as a bit of an asshole, it wasn't my itention :p )
 
The 500 isn't mine it's a driving school one. The punto I am looking at is a 2009 1.4 16V Starjet GP with 6 speed gearbox. I don't have a clue what to do as I can't find anything as nice but the reviews are so so mixed!
 
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