Taken from handbook:

for Petrol engines:

Synthetic Based oils GRADE 5W-40 Fiat 9.55535-m2Qualification

original oil:
Selenia K

Oil for Diesel Engines:
Synthetic Based oils GRADE 5W-40 Fiat 9.55535-N2Qualification

original oil:
Selenia WR

and in the foot notes..

"If using non original SAE 5-W-40 Products, Oils with a minimum ACEA A3 Specifications for petrol Engines and ACEA B4 specifications for diesel engines are admitted; In this event top engine performance is not guaranteed.

Use of products with low-quality properties than ACEA A3 and ACEA B4 could cause damages to the engine that are not covered by the warranty"



Capacity's (incl filter)

1.2-1.4 8v petrol = 2.6l

1.4 16v petrol = 2.9l

1.4 T-jet = 3.3

1.3Mjet = 3.2l

1.6Mjet = 4.6l



Newer (euro 5 rated) GP's use (also revised from the spec's above ((walk into any dealer and they will now say the stuff below is what is recommended))):

SAE 5W-40 ACEA C3 synthetic oil to FIAT 9.55535-S2 certification. (PETROL)

SAE 5W-30 synthetic oil. to FIAT 9.55535-S1 certification (DIESEL)



For diesel engines, in the event of an emergency in which the original products are not available, lubricants with at least ACEA C2 performance are acceptable; however, in this case optimum engine performances are not guaranteed and the lubricants should be
replaced with recommended products as soon as possible at a Fiat Dealership.


The use of products with specifications lower than ACEA C3 and ACEA C2 could cause engine damage not covered under warranty

Thats interesting. Ive always used 10/40 semi synth in any of the "FIRE" engines.... I wonder whats different about these ones?

wozwozza said:

Thats interesting. Ive always used 10/40 semi synth in any of the "FIRE" engines.... I wonder whats different about these ones?

Click to expand...

You and me both Woz

Been doing so for over 20 years since our first mk1 Punto with never a problem

1. New things like VVT.
2. Different markets and emissions limits (Europe VS America, North and South).
3. Maybe exhaust systems differ somehow (catalytic "poisoning" if incorrect oil is used).
4. Climate (temperature range).
So, just because it's still a FIRE family member...doesn't mean much really.

But, both of you are correct to some extent. Most engines in the world will run just fine on any random engine oil.
Frequent oil changes and good filtration (THIS is a real number one) are more important than type of oil itself.

wozwozza said:

Thats interesting. Ive always used 10/40 semi synth in any of the "FIRE" engines.... I wonder whats different about these ones?

Click to expand...

Detail @ 2010

GrandePunto PL said:

1. New things like VVT.
2. Different markets and emissions limits (Europe VS America, North and South).
3. Maybe exhaust systems differ somehow (catalytic "poisoning" if incorrect oil is used).
4. Climate (temperature range).
So, just because it's still a FIRE family member...doesn't mean much really.

But, both of you are correct to some extent. Most engines in the world will run just fine on any random engine oil.
Frequent oil changes and good filtration (THIS is a real number one) are more important than type of oil itself.

Click to expand...

Agree with this comment absolutely.
Mine is low-mileage (3 to 4k pa) but still gets oil and filter changed every 12 months.
As luck would happen she has just passed her 8-year old MoT with the amazing CO reading on the Natural Idle Test of 0.001%.
The Tester noted, with some surprise, that the CO value had dropped every year and asked me what I did. I replied "change the oil and filter on time every year"

GrandePunto PL said:

1. New things like VVT.
2. Different markets and emissions limits (Europe VS America, North and South).
3. Maybe exhaust systems differ somehow (catalytic "poisoning" if incorrect oil is used).
4. Climate (temperature range).
So, just because it's still a FIRE family member...doesn't mean much really.

But, both of you are correct to some extent. Most engines in the world will run just fine on any random engine oil.
Frequent oil changes and good filtration (THIS is a real number one) are more important than type of oil itself.

Click to expand...

The Panda (1.2 8 valve non vvt) is running on Petronas Syntium 3000 AV 5w-40 and the Punto (1.4 8 valve with vvt) is filled with Fuchs GT1 5w-40 (with XTL, whatever that is?) both are ACEA C3 and API SN. I run them because firstly they are "big name" oils in which I have confidence and I got good discounted prices when ordering. Both cars are second cars and don't necessarily run every day, especially the Panda which can stand for days between use. I find it takes a few revs to get the oil up to the cam and cam followers when she's not been run for a couple of days so I consciously chose the 5w (cold) grading over the 10w - because, I reasoned, a "thinner" viscosity would speed initial circulation. It's still a 40 weight when up to temp though. I also like that both these oils are a "modern" spec so Low SAPS. So perhaps things like Cats, Turbos and especially EGRs will suffer less from build up of deposits? I do worry slightly about reduced lubricity of low SAPS oils in general, but I recon the "Oil Genies" will probably be mixing in their magic potion additives to make up for this.

Oh, and although both do low mileages they get an annual oil change with oil filter. I have found in the past that new oil just before the MOT is done makes a small, but noticeable improvement in emissions. My old '99 Cordoba 1.9 TDI responded in this way. Change oil the day before the MOT and she got a "Fast Pass" submit it with year old oil in the sump and she had to endure the frequent "red lining" indignity!

Just did oil change today,
Used this again