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Old 01-03-2010   #1
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Airbag Failure Fiat Grande Punto 2006

Hi Guys,

First post for me here. I have just returned from FIAT Dealer here in Malta. Basically I was having 2 problems.

Problem 1


"Check Number Plate Lights" Warning. This was solved by replacing 2 bulbs
(FIAT Charged me the ridiculous price of 60. Where bulbs cost 1.21)

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"Airbag Failure". This has been there for quite a long time. When I was skimming through this forum I found a very intriguing thing regarding my problem. I was reading the Known Faults Sticky and came accross this.

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Fault - Horn - requires a firm press to operate.
Cure - lubrication of horn contacts DANGER airbag - dealer only!
Status - Rarely reported.
I am having this exact problem. Sometimes the horn required a very VERY firm press for it to operate. Can it be that this fault is affecting the
"Airbag Failure" thing?

FIAT said that it was the Stiring Column that had to be replaced. However they did not show me the Receipt produced by the Diagnostic tool. The Stiring Column is 260.00...

Can anybody help perhaps? Any insights? Thanks
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Re: Airbag Failure Fiat Grande Punto 2006

€60 for fitting 2 bulbs is crazy - its a 5 minute easy to do job!

Airbag failure could be a number of things, as easy as a loose connection right up to the steering column, airbag itself of the wheel. No doubt someone more technically minded will come on in a while and can give more details than I can on this.

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Thanks Yeah I know. I specifically told them to call me if there was need of work. No one called just handed me the bill when I went to pick it up.

After reading all the posts about Airbag Failure the Horn problem caught my attention I must say. I think it might be related to the Airbag Failure problem. I am not that much thrilled of spending €260 =\
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Re: Airbag Failure Fiat Grande Punto 2006

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Thanks Yeah I know. I specifically told them to call me if there was need of work. No one called just handed me the bill when I went to pick it up.

After reading all the posts about Airbag Failure the Horn problem caught my attention I must say. I think it might be related to the Airbag Failure problem. I am not that much thrilled of spending 260 =\
Lots of Grande Punto's had the Horn button issue without any Airbag problem.

In fact unlike Stilo's, (3 door especially) Grande Punto's rarely have Airbag problems.
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That is why I am a bit skeptic about the Steering Column problem. I think its something smaller than 260!

For instance... A couple of weeks ago I had the "Have Power Stiring Checked" Warning. I took it for a Diagnostic at a friend's of mine and it turns out it was the Speedo Sensor. Nothing to do with the Power Stiring itself.

I was thinking to hear a bit what you guys think before I commit myself into buying a new part.
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Re: Airbag Failure Fiat Grande Punto 2006

do you mean the steering clockspring?

possible airbag ecu update for your year of car
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No not exactly. At FIAT they said the Stiring Column Switch something... How can I check the Version?
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clockspring is part of the column switch
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clockspring is part of the column switch
Can it be related to my airbag failure warning?
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Re: Airbag Failure Fiat Grande Punto 2006

yes because the airbag wiring (from airbag ecu to airbag itself) runs through the switch/clockspring.
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I guess i will have to pay the 260 afterall don't I?
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Re: Airbag Failure Fiat Grande Punto 2006

has the garage checked that this is 100% the fault?
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The garage said it was. I am not 100% sure though. I don't trust them one bit! I guess I will have to run a Diagrnostic at another mechanic
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Re: Airbag Failure Fiat Grande Punto 2006

dealer should use airbag test kit to be100% sure of fault.
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