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GP Sporting 1.6 Diesel?!

Okay, I ordered my car from Motorprovider, and they've rung me today with a bit of interesting news...

Supposedly FIAT have sent them an email stating that the 1.9 Sporting is being discontinued and replaced with a 1.6 diesel engine that kicks out the same performance?

I promptly told them to get back on the blower to Fiat, as this sounded slightly odd to me, but what does everyone else think!?
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Re: GP Sporting 1.6 Diesel?!

I have seen Posts referring to this, I think it is the new 1.6 16 valver.

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Re: GP Sporting 1.6 Diesel?!

Yes its a 1.6 16v but im sure they are only phasing out the 1.9 (except for the 150mjet) in the new bravo?!?!.
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Re: GP Sporting 1.6 Diesel?!

More importantly - how would this affect the ability to remap, and the end figures?

I only bought the GP in the knowledge that it can be remapped to 170bhp+, as anything lower than that is a bit too slow for me...
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Re: GP Sporting 1.6 Diesel?!

When they stick the new 1.6 120hp Multijet in the GP that would give it a CO2 rating of only 126 as that what it is in the Mito.. that's amazingly low.

235 lbs/ft torque in the Mito - more than the Mjet at 207
123mph in the Mito - 124mph for the MJet
9.3 0-62 in the Mito - 9.2 for the Mjet

This also means that the car tax next year will be 90 a year, and the 1.9 will go up to 150.
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Re: GP Sporting 1.6 Diesel?!

Won't be as good to remap IMO. Although I could be wrong. But yeah that torque output is brilliant must be due to the 16v's .
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Re: GP Sporting 1.6 Diesel?!

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Re: GP Sporting 1.6 Diesel?!

Sounds good low tax
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Re: GP Sporting 1.6 Diesel?!

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I would confirm, it will be a much smoother nicer engine that should feel quicker in standard. I cant see why you shouldnt be able to up the power. You can increase the power on the 75 and 90 1.3 m-jet engines, the 1.6 is an enlarged version of this engine. The only thing is though is that It wouldnt be a while until some one brings out a decent map for it.
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I would confirm, it will be a much smoother nicer engine that should feel quicker in standard. I cant see why you shouldnt be able to up the power. You can increase the power on the 75 and 90 1.3 m-jet engines, the 1.6 is an enlarged version of this engine. The only thing is though is that It wouldnt be a while until some one brings out a decent map for it.
Are GSR doing 25% = +30hp on this unit in the Bravo atm?
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Re: GP Sporting 1.6 Diesel?!

If this is replacing the 1.9, you would have thought they would bring it out immediatly as the series 2 sporting, rather than having a few series 2 1.9 sportings about.

Sounds like it should be a good engine though
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Re: GP Sporting 1.6 Diesel?!

Yea wonder how long till they come out
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If this is replacing the 1.9, you would have thought they would bring it out immediatly as the series 2 sporting, rather than having a few series 2 1.9 sportings about.

Sounds like it should be a good engine though
I'll get the guy to forward on the email from Fiat - but he did say that the 1.9 will be replaced in all series 2's.

What infuriates me though, is why didn't Fiat update their website with this information when they included all the Series 2 extras!?
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Re: GP Sporting 1.6 Diesel?!

Quote Originally Posted by airey View Post
If this is replacing the 1.9, you would have thought they would bring it out immediatly as the series 2 sporting, rather than having a few series 2 1.9 sportings about.

Sounds like it should be a good engine though

Ahh... but the S2 GP's have been out since late last year in Italy. They've been running S1 stock down since then...
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Re: GP Sporting 1.6 Diesel?!

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What infuriates me though, is why didn't Fiat update their website with this information when they included all the Series 2 extras!?
Fiat UK are useless, although Fiat Italy aren't much better. They've stopped the 1.9 on the fiat.it website, most powerful 3 door diesel on there atm is the 1.3 90hp Sport.
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