extreme firmware

**custard** · 06-05-2007

okay ive still yet to flash mine as im having hardware issues,anyway..........

the rumour is(and it seems fairly reliable) that the spring M$ dash update will introduce checks for back up games.supposedly wont see the flashed firmware but will see the back up game and stop it booting.
its unknown as to what M$ will do,on the xbox 1 the console was banned from live but obviously its down to M$ on this and live is a bigger part of the 360 experience than it was on the xbox 1.

so if you have upgraded the firmware sort out the 5.3 version,if oyu paid to get it flashed then its up to you whether you want to pay again or take a gamble

**custard** · 08-05-2007

>> We got several hints (including from people calling support) that the Xbox360 Spring 2007 Update will be released Tuesday May 8th, but some other sources told us it's coming next Tuesday (May 15th). One month ago Microsoft said they would release it "in the week of May 7th" ... and history shows they like to release dashboard updates on Tuesdays. May 8th, 15th or somewhere in between ... anyway it shouldn't be too far away anymore.
The list of new features in the Spring 2007 Update didn't change since the official announcement last month.

Anonymous sources send some internal notes about the spring 2007 update with some interesting details:

Customers will receive an email detailing dash changes associated to the Spring Autoupdate on May 8th. The lists of Additional Features below are a supplement to training. Read and be familiar with these to help answer customer calls.

Additional Features
* When the tray icon is highlighted in the dash, a list of achievements, game icon and Gamerscore for that game is displayed.
* When devices are connected to the console, there is a folder view for video content now
* You can set a new default start mode in the system area that will boot the console to Media Center
* While downloading Video Marketplace content, you can now use Video trick modes. This includes fast forward, rewind, and chapter skip. You can use these trick modes only up to the point that the file has have already played to until the file has completed downloading
* Some dash advertisement banners will be animated and cannot be turned off
* When you earn an Achievement, the notification in the game will show the details of that Achievement and the Gamerscore without having to bring up the guide
* The Player and Friends lists now show session presence information for quick identification of users that are joinable
* The background and layout of the Marketplace blade will be updated dynamically by Live service. This will enables different themes for a day but cannot be changed by the user
* When browsing the Marketplace, you can hit the Y Button to quickly navigate to the top of Marketplace
* You now have the option to save your Windows Live ID password during Signup
* Friend information is displayed in multiple locations throughout Arcade now. You can quickly find them, see what they're playing and join in the fun
* Tell A Friend - You can send messages to your friends and boast about your latest achievements and high scores

Additional Spring 2007 Autoupdate Issues
* ISSUE 1: Cheating Corrupt Files Issue
We may see an increase in the number of users calling stating their saved game files are corrupt after the Spring autoupdate. Please refer and code to the following article for these issues: [KB# not up yet - ask after update

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A bit of info about the update and modified DVD firmwares:
As general rule, if you have a modified DVD FW we always suggest you wait till more details come in before you update your console or you can flash back the original FW. As always, update is at your own risk.
As you know from previous news Commodore4Eva received information that Microsoft is working on a way to detect backup discs (the disc, not the flashed drive!). He already released a new Xtreme v5.3 firmware for Toshiba-Samsung TS-H943 with added Disc-Jitter to Challenge Types 5/7 to pass this extra check Microsoft might do.
So if Microsoft adds the Disc-Jitter check to the Spring 2007 Update and you have a TS-H943 drive with the new v5.3 Xtreme FW, you should be fine (assuming they didn't add any other checks of course).
If you have a Hitachi-LG GDR-3120L drive with modified FW, we STRONGLY suggest you do NOT upgrade your dash/kernel yet. These modified FWs do NOT have disc-jitter added yet, so if Microsoft added this check they will detect backup discs. People are working on a quick patch for Hitachi-LG Xtreme v2.x FW to just add Disc-Jitter and eventually it'll catch up the Toshiba-Samsung drive to bring it to v5.3 as well. We'll of course let you know as soon as any if this gets released

What will Microsoft do when they detect this? That's something we don't know atm, we'll have to wait for the update. They will probably stop the game from booting, but they could start banning consoles from LIVE too (even if that might cause bad press) or who knows what they planned

. We'll have to wait and see ... but remember Microsoft has the tradition (see Xbox1) to ban consoles with delay, so don't take conclusions too fast

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**The Beast** · 08-05-2007

Well I hope they start banning consoles!

I'm the only person at my place of work out of around 15 who are on live who hasn't flashed my xbox and I have been telling them from day 1 that M$ will figure it out and you will all be Fxxked!

I'm quite looking forward to it.

**custard** · 08-05-2007

well we shall see,im thinking M$ may go with boot blocking than live banning.
they may be less keen on the negative publicity.
however if you dont paty for the game then you can hardly whine if you get blocked/banned

**The Beast** · 08-05-2007

Originally Posted by custard

well we shall see,im thinking M$ may go with boot blocking than live banning.
they may be less keen on the negative publicity.

Didn't seem to bother them on the Xbox 1.
I know live is bigger thing now so that could make a difference.

I'm not a bad person but!

**custard** · 08-05-2007

also remember (regardless what M$ say) the 360 has suffered far more hardware issues than the xbox 1 plus there were bricked 360's with the last update so even though its down to flashing it could lead ot a glut of my 360 is broke/watchdog type action

**The Beast** · 08-05-2007

M$ could start the legal action first against the terrorism supporting pirates first. When a copied game is detected. They will already have contact details credit card numbers and stuff.

I now it would never happen. I just really want to walk into work with the biggest grin the universe has ever seen and sqeal at the top of my voice..

I told you all so!

**custard** · 08-05-2007

well just wait till there old firmware is detected

its possible though the firmware guys had(hopefully) brought out some firmwares to combat the update before its even released

**The Beast** · 08-05-2007

Yeah I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens.

**custard** · 08-05-2007

it may take a while,on xbox 1 M$ logged loads on live before they brought the ban in.then they started banning those who had changed their hard drives as well

**custard** · 18-05-2007

Microsoft Starts Banning 360s on LIVE - MS Confirms
>> With the amount of posts we see on our forums ... it's clear, Microsoft decided to start banning Xbox360 with modified firmwares today (both Hitachi-LG and Toshiba-Samsung drives).
While it's the same release date as Halo3 beta, it seems that people who didn't download Halo3 also get banned. They probably detect backup discs (and not the modified firmware) when you play 'em online (not confirmed yet).
Even people using the new firmwares with disc-jitter added get banned, so it looks like Microsoft found another way to detect it. However we also see reports of people with modified firmwares that are not banned (yet). Microsoft is known to ban with delay though, so it'll probably take a while before we got a good view on who got banned for what reasons.
Just like on Xbox1 it looks like Microsoft bans the console unique ID (serial), not the LIVE user. Microsoft will not allow anyone to login on LIVE on a banned console.
Many people on the official xbox.com forums also claim they got banned but didn't have a flashed firmware ... we'll have to see how that story develops in the coming hours and days.

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**The Beast** · 18-05-2007

Oh baby I have been waiting for this!
Gonna play it cool tho.
Real cool Daddio!

**custard** · 18-05-2007

well i expected it but will be interested to see the feedback on the banning criteria

**The Beast** · 18-05-2007

It's the part about updated firmware bening banned aswell I find interesting.
Wonder what other way they have of detecting the games other than this anti-jitter?

**custard** · 18-05-2007

well its all speculation,it may be the disc jitter info was leaked to show up firmwares

its a fair cop and anyone whining of being banned fro using copy games cant really justify it.
we may be back to xbox 1 days of having an offline and another online machine

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