hello

I did post this a week or two ago but apparently the post was gone ?

I found myself lucky enough to buy a secondhand Fiorino in november. It was only 6 months old and 3700 km on the counter. But.. I'm coming from an apparently alien car that needed only 4liter/100 (my old fiat punto 2004 diesel) and I could drive however I wanted. And that means A LOT faster than I do now with the Fiorino. I am just terrified when I look at the numbers in the dashboard. It was 8 Liter/100km two weeks ago, and now it's back at 7.1 L. It stays around 7-8l, now matter how careful I drive.
I kept all data of me going to the gas station and put it in excel and now it ends up at 8.8 liter per 100. This is just way too much for such a small new car !!
And it's not like I weigh 200 kilo or that the car is filled with stuff; It's empty and I'm tiny !

Am I doomed to drive 100km/hr on highways ?
I kinda wanted this little van to be able to travel with it too once in a while.
I like it but I don't like that fact that it's
1)drinking
2)very slow AND drinking
3)going a bit faster and I'm gonna cry of how much it 'll drink

Maybe I should buy an older Doblo and put a gas installation in it. At least I can put the pedal down and I'll earn back the investment in a few years.
A diesel is not an option considering all the anti-diesel stuff that the government is up to.

Maybe not a perfect answer but it does take a little time for a diesel (or any new car?) to soot up a bit to make the economy better. I had a Fiorino from new and eventually it got better and better at returning a good mileage. My best ever distance on a tankful (75PS engine btw) was 520 miles and I've never bettered that. (I normally drive at 60mph on motoroways and I get where I'm going in good time and save some fuel too.)
Motorway driving is best for diesels and I do a min commute weekly of 500 miles plus some local driving when I've reached my town of work so I normally get 465 miles between fills (average). Currently on a '62 plate Qubo Dualogic 75 PS.
The sales pitch for the Fiorino suggests that it will do 1000km on a tankful - that's ~660 miles but I think that's dreamland on a rolling road without stopping or varying speed. Pity that the method for getting the claimed mileages aren't divulged or forced to be printed for our information.

As to the Govt. deciding once that diesels were the way forward and encouraging us to buy them, then changing their minds - well, typical misinformation.
Who pays? We do.. Maybe I keep this car until the value has been written off as I doubt p/x prices will be anything like favourable when the next recommended thing comes along. Why aren't oil companies investing their huge profits in fuel cell/hydrogen/battery development at a faster pace? We need something that REALLY works and soon!

Hope your economy improves (Doblo is not pretty...)

R-V-M

monstertruckess said:

hello
I did post this a week or two ago but apparently the post was gone ?

I found myself lucky enough to buy a secondhand Fiorino in november. It was only 6 months old and 3700 km on the counter. But.. I'm coming from an apparently alien car that needed only 4liter/100 (my old fiat punto 2004 diesel) and I could drive however I wanted. And that means A LOT faster than I do now with the Fiorino. I am just terrified when I look at the numbers in the dashboard. It was 8 Liter/100km two weeks ago, and now it's back at 7.1 L. It stays around 7-8l, now matter how careful I drive.
I kept all data of me going to the gas station and put it in excel and now it ends up at 8.8 liter per 100. This is just way too much for such a small new car !!
And it's not like I weigh 200 kilo or that the car is filled with stuff; It's empty and I'm tiny !

Am I doomed to drive 100km/hr on highways ?
I kinda wanted this little van to be able to travel with it too once in a while.
I like it but I don't like that fact that it's
1)drinking
2)very slow AND drinking
3)going a bit faster and I'm gonna cry of how much it 'll drink

Maybe I should buy an older Doblo and put a gas installation in it. At least I can put the pedal down and I'll earn back the investment in a few years.
A diesel is not an option considering all the anti-diesel stuff that the government is up to.

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Hi monstertruckess,
If I'm reading your post right, you have a petrol version of the Qubo/Fiorino......in which case maybe your not that far off the norm. Ignore the sales pitch, have a look on this site, http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/ when the page opens click on 'real mpg' its on top of page, select Fiat and then your model. These are mpg figures real people obtain......diesel is far better, and the auto better still.
Have fun.
Qube O.

yes I thought that I should get rid of diesel because they start now with stickers and stuff in Antwerp for getting rid of old diesels in the city center. And I read somewhere that they will increase prices for tax etc for diesel, so I bought petrol.
I do miss the diesel feeling.. we drive old diesel vans at work so every day I get to go wild and then when returning home, I have to deal with a slow petrol again that is not paid by the company .

There's no real mpg for this fiorino on that link, but even than I couldn't change what i have in my own car. Guess i have to calculate once more what it would cost me in the long run. Also have to change this belt now.. Didn't think that would be necessary but they only have the chain on the diesels. Saw that after I bought it.

I just found this, which seems a bit more accurate than what is written on the official pdf (I wonder what extra-urban is.. 60mph?):
Fuel consumption
simulation based on the European type of traffic






extra-urban / city / highway / average combined:
ll/100km : 5.2-6.9 / 7.2-9.5 / 7.5-9.9 / 6.9


mpg (imp.):
41.1-54.1 / 29.7-39.1 / 28.6-37.6 / 40.9
mpg (U.S.):
34.2-45 / 24.7-32.5 / 23.8-31.3 / 34.1
km/l:
14.5-19.1 / 10.5-13.9 / 10.1-13.3 / 14.5

Look under Qubo, same as Fiorino, except we have windows and rear seats.........

An update; I'm now at 12000km, so I drove about 8000 since November;
The petrol use was quite a bit less when we took our first trip to France with it; 500km in one trip and it went from 7.5 to 6.5Liter. So instead of being more it decreased, which is logical, but it felt like it would not happen with this car !
It also accelerates a bit better. Last time I drove 500km on a full tank so yay.
It used to be 450. Computer showed about 7.8-7.5L/100km when I wrote my first post, and now it's about 6.5.
Not sure if I'd ever put LPG in it, because I want to travel but it's a bit small to use as a camper LOL.