if you have magic green grips |( i think they call them water pump pliers) they are often better for twisting the pipe as you can set them to be not too tight

Well another day, another failure.

There is no way to get the pliers onto the "inboard" bit - as there is a massive lip above which is in the way.

So the only bit I can grip is the bulbous bit - even that's not good though, as there's only enough space for about 1/8 of a rotation F***!

Maybe something like this? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/3804...ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=108

But there really isn't much space there behind it - so I don't know if that will work either.

So the other issue I have now is - because that clamp is gone, is it safe to drive around?

This might fit actually - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BERGEN-Pr...val-Tool-/281318352323?_trksid=p2054897.l5669

They may be easier to get off if you run the engine to heat the rubber, then try with the pliers. Be aware that you could be sprayed with hot water if they do come off this way.

Because of the above, if you want to drive it, put one of the new hose clips on to replace the clip you've already removed.
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If I lived closer I'd lend you this to crack/break the pipe seal/bead

an 1/8 is plentyback n forth till the seal works loose another way to warm pipe is pour kettle of hot water over it, and no its not safe to drive with no clip.

that tap wrench grande guy posted are cheap, your dad may already have one

get any further today?

Yes, it's all done thanks to Davren I'll do the guide tomorrow, took enough photos!

from his advice on here or did he do it for you?

I took it round there

It isn't a hard job, you just needed to know what you were doing.

that's cheating

what he do just fit the pipe or did he change the whole matrix?

Pipe, we only had a short time, I needed to be at my aunt's in the afternoon... lol

has it fixed it or is coolant still going down?

Guide up - https://www.fiatforum.com/ducato-guides/350283-bypassing-heater-matrix.html

Yes, that's solved it

We couldn't work out the colour though - so I'll get them to flush it and put the bottle of red in I bought.

(Couldn't do it ourselves as we couldn't find the bleed valve)

looks like a self bleeding system to me, T14086 ?

don't leave it to long before you get permanent fix, running with no coolant for long time isn't good

dave said:

looks like a self bleeding system to me, T14086 ?

don't leave it to long before you get permanent fix, running with no coolant for long time isn't good

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What do you mean? I'm not going to fix it - that's it, we'll just leave it as bypassed

Or you mean the replacement coolant? That will be next week

as long as you get the coolant in it will prevent further damage.

window open in the pissing down of rain isnt going to be fun, look into plug in blow heater

https://www.google.co.uk/search?cli...rceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest

not sure how good they are though, maybe get a couple :idea:

ben said:

Couldn't do it ourselves as we couldn't find the bleed valve

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It was a drain point we couldn't find.

Didn't want to remove the bottom hose in case it wouldn't go back on again and because we couldn't access it from the top.
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