General Leaky brown stuff in the passenger footwell

varesecrazy · May 15, 2014

if access to just SEE it is fair,
worth wiping it over and see where the water is dripping / pooling,
fairly common for the union ( seals) to leak ..rather than the Alloy Matrix itself,

swinging the joint out to add sealant / replace o-rings is easier.. ,
good luck..!!, Charlie

dave · May 15, 2014

has a ducato got a cock or flaps? if unsure set heater to full heat,

ben · May 15, 2014

dave said:
has a ducato got a cock or flaps? if unsure set heater to full heat,

Yeah, I did that on the 30 min run.

Btw, it had lost 3l of fluid.

I'll see if I can get under the dash tomorrow without taking it all apart...

dave · May 15, 2014

ben said:
Btw, it had lost 3l of fluid.

that's a lot some thing is ****ed

ben · May 15, 2014

Yeah - Stu has confirmed it started from about a month ago.

Really slow leak though - as obviously 3l in one quick go would be very noticeable.

Fingers crossed it's just the seal - and even more fingers crossed I can reach it without taking everything apart...

dave · May 15, 2014

what seal?

did the rad fan kick in btw?

ben · May 16, 2014

Between the pipes and the matrix.

Fan - Hmm, I'm not sure, I didn't check that.

portland_bill · May 16, 2014

The original pic looks like a big leak. Water in the scuttle would look like this, but would not drain the coolant.
My guess is matrix leak has drained the coolant, hopefully not done any engine damage. May need new matrix, or just seals.

Stick a finger into the leaked fluid. Sniff it. Does it smell of dead leaves and mud, etc., or a slightly sweet sickly smell? Sickly stuff is coolant. Rusty smell is coolant without much actual coolant left in it. Now rub your fingers together. Muddy water will be just wet. Coolant will feel slightly sticky, then make your fingers feel dry after you've wiped the fluid off.

Tasting it is best left to the professionals. (Been there, done that. Fluid diagnosis procedure: smell, feel, taste.)

dave · May 16, 2014

whats todays story, are you out of bed yet? dont forget to take that K-seal back to the motor factors and kick him up the arse

varesecrazy · May 16, 2014

portland_bill said:
The original pic looks like a big leak. Water in the scuttle would look like this, but would not drain the coolant.
My guess is matrix leak has drained the coolant, hopefully not done any engine damage. May need new matrix, or just seals.

Stick a finger into the leaked fluid. Sniff it. Does it smell of dead leaves and mud, etc., or a slightly sweet sickly smell? Sickly stuff is coolant. Rusty smell is coolant without much actual coolant left in it. Now rub your fingers together. Muddy water will be just wet. Coolant will feel slightly sticky, then make your fingers feel dry after you've wiped the fluid off.

Tasting it is best left to the professionals. (Been there, done that. Fluid diagnosis procedure: smell, feel, taste.)

it will smell of "rusty water"

as that's what it appears to be

very little anti-freeze left looking at the pics,

as Dave Said, water will be good to preserve the engine ( and Flush the crud out) until a proper seal is restored,

Charlie

Charlie

dave · May 16, 2014

who's Dave S

ben · May 16, 2014

dave said:
whats todays story, are you out of bed yet? dont forget to take that K-seal back to the motor factors and kick him up the arse

I write this from within the blankets

I'll check it after I get back from the gym.

varesecrazy · May 16, 2014

dave said:
who's Dave S

who's Charlie charlie,

charlie

ben · May 16, 2014

Didn't have time for a proper check, but the water on the footwell seems clear now - which makes sense as I filled it up with clear. Grr.

Assuming I can't sort it myself, I think I'll just keep topping it up until I can get it back up to Stu's - as his garage charges half the hourly rate as London ones!

dave · May 17, 2014

that's a risky long way to go with a leak, you could end up with blown head gasket or worse.

if you can get to the hoses easy then you can bypass matrix with a bit of copper pipe and 2 hose clips

ben · May 17, 2014

dave said:
that's a risky long way to go with a leak, you could end up with blown head gasket or worse.

if you can get to the hoses easy then you can bypass matrix with a bit of copper pipe and 2 hose clips

That's still going to be on the inside though isn't it?

Well we'll see when I can get in there

Crossingkeeper · May 17, 2014

ben said:
That's still going to be on the inside though isn't it?

Well we'll see when I can get in there

The heater hoses come from the engine cooling system and (usually) access is (fractionally) easier that side of the bulkhead. Though this will orobably mean crawling around underneath

varesecrazy · May 17, 2014

YES - access MAY be better from rear of engine..,

what age it THIS ducato..??

possible to reduce the leakrate if you keep the temp set on COLD:idea:

as suggested .. a really long journey could mean the engine being starved of efficient cooling,

Charlie

Stu DemonD · May 17, 2014

ben said:
Assuming I can't sort it myself, I think I'll just keep topping it up until I can get it back up to Stu's - as his garage charges half the hourly rate as London ones!

Ah, last place I used was in Halifax - I will check my place here that I use [Motorvation] but there is also another recommended place just around the corner [called Brooklands]

dave · May 17, 2014

Lloyd is nearer and reasonable but still an hours drive and its going to be hot hot hot next week
http://www.clovertechuk.com/

Croydon is full of poor people anyone know a good cheep garage there? (WTF google says that's still an hours drive an its only 9 miles)

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