Technical 2000 Ducato 18Q, 2.8 TD Timing Belt

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Technical 2000 Ducato 18Q, 2.8 TD Timing Belt

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2000 FIAT Ducato 18Q - 2.8 TD
VIN: ZFA23000005887229

OK, Please excuse what may seem like a redundant request but I feel that I have scoured this forum for my model but cannot really find a dead match? I found the post on the jTD, TDi, iTd, 2.3's, 2.5's and 2004 and up but not my model. Please bear with me.

I am coming around to a cam belt service (first at 101K, Oct, '05, and current odo at 204,855K) and am considering doing it myself. I have a oil leak from the valve cover gasket and figure that while I have that cover off I ??Should?? be able to navigate around that same area and refit the cam belt and associated parts. Right?

My question is; I am a full time inhabitant of the Motorhome that rides on this chassis which is now traveling through France. I have gotten some quotes on a "Cam Belt Kit" from Fiat-FR and it comes in somewhere around 450 Euros and get this, another 450 Labor! On the other hand, Norauto, a garage and parts chain throughout FR, has a much cheaper Kit available from SKS (I think the same manufacturer as the Bearing Guys). IS IT NECESSARILY OBILGITORY TO USE FIAT CAM BELT KITS?? Do they last longer, stronger, more reliable? I would really appreciate anyones experienced input on this consideration!

In addition, is there any guidance out there for the replacement procedures for the job and what snags that I will encounter? I frequently do these services to my vehicle roadside so to speak, at the camper stops called Aires de Services in France. Convenient places for us vagabonds where we can overnight for an unlimited time. Could this job be pulled off in plein-aire, without cover or lifts?

If you need any further info I am eager to accomodate!

Thanks in advance,
umanemo.
 
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Belt is number: 99456477
Tensioner: 99461357

You can find the manual in downloads
https://www.fiatforum.com/downloads.php?do=cat&id=23

The belts are on ebay.de for 25 euro but you should change the tensioners too which are about 40 euro each so you might as well get a kit they're on ebay for 107 euro.

Iveco is usually about half the price so if you go to your local iveco wherever you are in france you might get the kit for a little more than online.
 
Hi
From memory the 2.8 TD is basically the same procedure as the 2.8 JTD baring the fact that you have to line the injection pump up with a pin whereas in the JTD this step is not necessary. If you follow my guide for the 2.8 JTD it should be the same as yours except for the injection pump timing, I think even the timing marks are the same.
I did my on the driveway at home without any special tools other than the 36mm socket for the crankshaft pulley & did not bother raising the front up just crawled underneath. Will check autodata & get back.
https://www.fiatforum.com/ducato/218539-2-8-jtd-timing-belt-replacement.html
 
Hi, was just reading through your questions re the timing belt change. I have a 2002 motorhome withe the 2.8JTD engine. All the info I have been able to read plus own experience with other vehicles is that when you are changing the timing belt change the water pump at the same time. I had a situation where a water pump run off the timing belt seized. It stripped all the teeth off the belt. Fortunately no valve damage but there could have been. If you can it is always worth changing the tensioners and water pump while everything is off.

Hope this helps,

Motothomers
 
Don't Shoot Me! but I gave in to convenience. I have had the Cam belt and Water pump replaced by a Renault Garage in Trie sur Baise, France. They made me an offer I couldn't refuse! Original FIAT Parts (all though original FIAT prices...but I would have bought the parts from FIAT anyway, misplaced loyalty I guess), 1 Year Parts and Labor guarantee and all that labor for only 180 Euros! (40 Euros/hr.)

All is well that ends well, right? WRONG! I am completely satisfied with the repair work, in fact I would recommend the Garage but in dropping the engine 20cm. to affect the repairs they cracked the FREON low pressure line at the bend in the tubing that lays over the bracket attached to the battery platform. (The mechanic did not release the hose from the compressor prior to dropping the engine, lazy or trying to save time?) BUMMER! Now I have to negotiate in French (Do not speak French) that they were responsible for the damage. I do not think they will have any of that, but wouldn't you think they should at least do the repair at their cost?

Anyone had this dilemma? I would really like to know how to proceed and hear from anyone who has sorted the "Responsibility Bulls Eye!"

Thanks by the way to everyone who has helped me along this trail, this forum is invaluable and I have recommended it all around my Motorcaravan circles! Keep up the good work!

PS. Are the tensioners usually included in the FIAT "Kit du Destribution"? these guys added on a tensioner at 48 euros? to the Cam Belt Kit (148 Euros) I did replace the A/C and Serpentine belts so maybe one of them could have required a tensioner?
 
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