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Bypassing the Heater Matrix
4 hours to replace it, sod that!
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Bypassing the Heater Matrix

Got coolant leaking into your passenger footwell? Then it's quite likely you've got a leaking matrix.

You could spend a day (or pay for 4 hours) to get the whole matrix replaced, or you could simply bypass it from the engine bay.

Of course you won't have any heating in the cab anymore, but then, real men don't need heaters!

The job is actually pretty simple, you just need to be brave about pulling pipes and not worrying they will break

This was done on a 2004 (15) Model - not sure if the others are the same, but anyway, it might give you some idea

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real men do need to see though, no matrix can mean no demister, this should be looked at as a get you out of trouble fix, not a permant one.
It is a whole lot better than adding the pour in crap to try and plug a hole though
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real men do need to see though, no matrix can mean no demister, this should be looked at as a get you out of trouble fix, not a permant one.
It is a whole lot better than adding the pour in crap to try and plug a hole though
For £400 - I'd rather just open the window if it's steaming up
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shop around, you should find cheaper.

i had a mk3 cortina with no demister, it took all the fun out of driving.
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shop around, you should find cheaper.

i had a mk3 cortina with no demister, it took all the fun out of driving.
Oh the matrix is just £55 - it's the 4.5 hours labour at £75 an hour which makes it uneconomical!
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Re: Bypassing the Heater Matrix

Too long a cold icy winter up here.....even with a heater it takes ages heating up a old diesel
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Oh the matrix is just £55 - it's the 4.5 hours labour at £75 an hour which makes it uneconomical!
that's a main dealer hourly rate though, should be able to find a 1 man struggling business to do it for half that, there is a dude in traders section that seemed very cheap.

this dude http://www.fiatforum.com/alfa-f-fiat...mid-bucks.html if you can get there for not much fuel
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Re: Bypassing the Heater Matrix

Ok, for reference - there is no drainage plug, you do need to remove the bottom hose to clear it out
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Re: Bypassing the Heater Matrix

Just fit a bottle of Forte cooling system conditioner / sealer,I have known this last for several years & if leak re appears fit another bottle. This stuff is amodern chemical sealer,it stays active for other leaks in the system & does not block water ways up internaly like some old makes used too. Its trade only so just find a garage that uses it & buy a bottle. Usually about £10.
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Real men may not need heaters but a real considerate man would roll his sleeves up and get stuck in and do the job for his passengers and safety.Ken
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Real men may not need heaters but a real considerate man would roll his sleeves up and get stuck in and do the job for his passengers and safety.Ken
real considerate men concider the date and don't post on threads that have been dead for over 2 years, the van is long gone
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Re: Bypassing the Heater Matrix

This was a last attempt to keep the forums old van going.
Tinworm finished the job.
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Ooops this is just an old considerate man not looking at the date of the thread when browsing the forum. Dementia on an adventure next I suppose.Ken
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Re: Bypassing the Heater Matrix

+ I have just bought my first and maybe last camper this year and the first unexpected job was to replace the by passed heater. I was told that the van overheated so they also by passed the cooling fan switch to have control. When I put another heater in I put everything back as it should be. On running the engine the fan kicks in and out as it should at 90deg just need to test now in the spring next year.Ken
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